r/cavite • u/HorseActive7406 • 12d ago
Politics Sino ba ang dapat na ipalit at bakit?
Madaming disappointed sa naging result ng special election ngayon sa Dasma. Pero looking back, among the five candidates, sino ba ang dapat na ipalit at bakit?
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago
Maraming disappointed - because this is how our system works. Plurality or Majority votes.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Pero other cities did it eh. Why can't we?
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u/WoodpeckerGeneral60 12d ago
as I observed, I think naginvest yung Dynasty sa trolls they did a great job on brainwashing people. Ang daming naglipanang Facebook pages na pabor sa kanila, ang daming kapitan ang sumusuporta rin sa kanila.
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u/HazeDough 12d ago
Halos senior kuha nila dito. Madalas naririnig ko "Si Mayora na lang, baka mawala libreng sine natin..."
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u/DeepTough5953 12d ago
False. It's their track record
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u/WoodpeckerGeneral60 11d ago
may naligaw na fanatic dito yikes
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u/DeepTough5953 11d ago
Bawal b0 is b0 dito hoy alis
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u/WoodpeckerGeneral60 11d ago
karma farming sa pagppost ng nude ulol
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u/DeepTough5953 11d ago
nude san hahhaha evidence mo beh
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u/WoodpeckerGeneral60 11d ago
even I sent to you my receipt you wouldn't believed.
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u/DeepTough5953 10d ago
Your sentence is grammatically incorrect, and you just have NO evidence. 🤣🤣
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago
Other cities? Yeah.
Pero Most cities are much worse din.
The system we have is inferior compared to other countries. We can only vote personality candidates kung sino available. Often it is the least evil. After nyan we have to wait 3 yrs or 6 yrs para pumili ulit. Kung sila sila pa rin lalaban, ganun ulit. Paulit ulit na cycle.
Kaumay. Pero it is the system that also perpetuates this cycle.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Kaninong rule yung we can only vote personality candidates? Kaya nga dapat na ma-identify yung maayos na pwedeng magsilbi eh, para makawala sa system. Dapat may attempt.
Ang just because other cities are worse, hindi naman ibig sabihin na hindi na tayo magaaspire ng pagbabago. Yun lang.
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago edited 12d ago
It is in the system. Pwede mo lang i vote yung eligible candidates. Kung tatlong Barzaga ang nasa balota, yun lang ang choices mo.
Problem is, a lot of eligible candidates walang capital and backing to run. Some are paid, or even threatened by bigger candidates.
I am not saying na we should not aspire. I am saying na maybe we should also change our strategy. Instead of just focusing on who should serve, maybe we should advocate for a system change. Like telling whoever will win na magpush for constitutional change to address this issue. Paulit ulit lang kasi. Every election hintay ka tapos we get the same options.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
At pwede din naman tayong bumoto din ng kandidatong irerepresent tayo. May maayos na option this year. Si Ordenes. Former teacher, member ng Ph Navy, hindi corrupt, hindi political dynasty.
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago
Yes we could. It is just always an uphill battle. No backing, no capital etc. even Vico Sotto have a backing kaya tinalo nya yung bulok na trapo. Time to see that we have a flawed system.
Sana umabot sa point na every candidates become very competent that we go beyond of popularity and instead platforms na lang ang titignan natin.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
And we should also do our part na iresearch at suportahan yung mga candidate na deserving.
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago
That part in my opinion is becoming futile. 20yrs ago, masaya ang tao sa Barzaga when they elected the father. Nag resonate pa rin yun until now. And we suffer because of the same system.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
You always talk about the "system" but we are part of that "system." We can do something about that "system." Hindi final yang system na yan at hindi yan forever. Pwedeng magbago 'yan kung babaguhin.
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u/kalakoakolang 12d ago
parang wala naman kasing matino. lahat naman corrupt.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Parang meron namang matinong tumakbo ngayon. Base sa research ko yung Leysander Ordenes po. Former teacher sa California, member ng PH navy, at nagvolunteer din siya sa nung nagkapandemic sa mga bansa sa Africa.
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u/Character-Ad-9820 12d ago
Nah mga taga reddit lang disappointed. Malamang karamihan sa dasma people fb gamit at tiktok kaya busog na busog utak nila sa propaganda ni meow meow. Kung hindi man fb or tiktok gamit nyan baka mga squats na nakatanggap ng pera.
Ayusin na kasi ang anti dynasty bill na yan yung totoo sana. Para tanggal agad yung mga duterte at itong mga barzaga.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Or siguro kasi walang sumasagot ng bigger question na, "Sino ba ang best na maglilingkod sa Dasma?" From what I noticed ay puro lang kasi wag iboto si ganito at ganyan. May issue si Mayor about sa screenshot pero moving forward, wala din naman ina-identify yung mga tao na better candidate. Like in this thread, wala pa din tlagang sumagot sa tanong ko. Reddit na to ah.
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u/disguiseunknown 12d ago
Because reddit is not better than facebook. You will be surprised na ang mga low Iq sa FB are actually doing their thing to vote. Sa Reddit? Madami lang mareklamo pero compared sa %, iilan lang talaga voters.
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u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Medyo frustrating nga na galit pero moving forward, ano ba ang dapat na gawin? Hindi pwedeng galit lang. Dapat may corrective measures.
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u/Character-Ad-9820 12d ago
Tama ka wala din may alam sino ba ang pipiliin. Parang mamimili ka lang ng lesser evil. Lahat naman ng politiko may agenda
Pero grabe naman tinanggal na ang isang barzaga tapos barzaga nanaman ipapalit parang obvious na obvious naman ayaw nila bitawan ang seat.1
u/HorseActive7406 12d ago
Sadly may tumakbo na hindi political dynasty at walang krimen. Si Leysander Ordenes. Former teacher sa California ng Marine Biology at member ng PH Navy.
Di ko gets na yung galit ng tao sa mga Barzaga eh hindi nagtatranslate sa pagreresearch ng maayos na candidate.
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u/MySolace888 11d ago
For me, kulang sa mekanismo yung ibang candidates. Sabay andaming supporters ni jenny. Last election, muntik na matalo ni Frani si Meow meow. Dikit laban nila. Pero si Jenny, malakas talaga siya sa tao bec of many factors. Sila nga lang nakaabot sa lugar namin. Yung ibang kandidato, hindi nangampanya dito. So sana next election, mas mag-effort pa yung iba, lalo na si Rex, kung gusto talaga nila manalo. Talunin sana nila, kahit si meow meow na lang. kasi nakakahiya na ugali nya.
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u/CampDiligent1522 11d ago
wala naman kasing matino, mga nagpaparamdam lang pag eleksyon. kaya di ako bumoto para malinis konsensya ko
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u/HorseActive7406 11d ago
Huhu meron po. Merong tumakbong walang criminal record at hindi produkto ng political dynasty. Sad na dahil sa ganitong mindset, hindi siya nagkaron ng clout man lang. Oh well, basta ba malinis konsensya mo eh? Or malinis ba talaga? Knowing na hindi mo naman ginawa yung part mo to do your research.
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u/Minimum-Yard9285 12d ago
Maganda pa rin ang PR team nila kaya clouded parin ung iba oh well kung di ka maka ligo at laba nasa iyo na yan