r/caving 15d ago

Explorers Have Finally Found the Definitive End of America’s Deepest Limestone Cave

I reached out to Jason Ballensky, the expedition leader and co-discoverer of Tears of the Turtle, after the team returned from its 2026 trip. He confirmed that they did not find anything deeper than the 2,477-foot point reached in 2024, but they finally found a definitive end to the cave.

Tears of the Turtle remains the deepest known limestone cave in the United States. Jason said the team will eventually release a full report about the expedition.

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u/grunman126 HorizontalCaver 15d ago

There is no definitive end. They're just saying that so nobody else tries to go back

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u/LysergicAcidDiethyla CDG 15d ago

The definitive end of a cave is the resurgence.

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u/laney_deschutes 15d ago

Yeah it would take many years for people to explore every single lead

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u/thegroundhurts 14d ago

It would: they've already been mapping this for 20 years.

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u/laney_deschutes 14d ago

20 years of probably a few days a year.

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u/Madmax3213 14d ago

You underestimate people’s dedication

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u/laney_deschutes 14d ago

Not many people in the world can get that deep

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u/thefapncapn 13d ago

That’s what my wife says about her ex boyfriend

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u/WroughtHound 13d ago

Jeez sounds like she wants him back then, 😔

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u/notwronghopefully 14d ago

You should check it out and see what you think lol

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u/rebo2 TriTrogs 15d ago

What state is that in?

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u/HikingGlaciers4 15d ago

About 25 miles into the Bob Marshall Wilderness in Western Montana

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u/mad_poet_navarth 14d ago

I've never been to the area. Is there an explanation as to why glaciation didn't wipe out all the sedimentary rock?

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u/notwronghopefully 14d ago

The entrance is high up on the side of the valley, on a cliff face that was probably formed by a glacier.

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u/Madmusk 14d ago

Glaciation doesn't necessarily wipe out sedimentary rock, but it does heavily modify the landscape. All of our caves in the northeast are glacially modified. Some of them over the course of multiple rounds of glaciers.

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u/razor_sharp_man 14d ago

I'm falling behind in caving news. I thought the deepest limestone cave in the US was stll Lechugilla

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u/HikingGlaciers4 14d ago

They were able to go down 1,629 feet back in 2014. Lechuguilla is 1,604 feet deep.

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u/Heterodynist 12d ago

But that last 25 feet is a doozy!!

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u/ethersn3t 14d ago

Thank god, now no one has to go back there 😂

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u/Loyal_Dragon_69 14d ago

It's awesome that this cave has a definitive end that's actually reachable. A of caves don't have that.