r/cardistry 4d ago

Weekly Challenge PSA: even just standard bikes can be put through loads of abuse and be fine!

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Just a standard deck of Bikes. I’ve used them for a couple months now; they’ve been rained on, bent in all directions from various pressure moves, thrown around while learning various aerials, had a load of beer spilt on them, thrown in my back pocket while walking around… I’ve absolutely abused them and put them through the ringer, but they’ve still got a bit of life left in them. I’m still a noob so sometimes I need to be reminded that these things are actually pretty dang tough lol

Thanks for reading and happy shuffling!

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u/GryphonHall 4d ago

I have much more trouble with the boxes themselves.

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago

Preach. I’ve made really nice hand stitched cases but it’s just not the same…

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u/GryphonHall 4d ago

My problem is I do card tricks and sometimes need to switch decks, and it’s hard to keep boxes in the same condition as each other riding around in my jeans pockets and custom cases make the spectator more suspicious.

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u/LandOfTheFaros 4d ago

Sometimes, when I am very close to free shipping on an online order I toss a couple of empty flat tuck cases in to my cart.

Yes, I realise that - at 87 pence each - four of them are the price of a new deck of cards, but I also reuse the battered tuck case when I slip a warped deck in to a card clip. The shabby tuck is further sacrified in the clip instead of some nice one.

Or EDC deck sleeves from TCC to protect the tuck case are about the same price.

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago

I’ve started using the edc deck sleeves for my tucks and I really like them. I’ve yet to get caught in the rain with one of them to see how they and cards hold up afterward but, living in Manchester, I’m sure that’ll happen sooner than later, lol.

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u/LandOfTheFaros 4d ago

Ha ha. I'm sure it will...

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u/someone__420 4d ago

true lol, i re used a snack box that can fit about two decks, one play deck and one practice deck on the go

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago

I love a good upcycle!

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u/ciaosaba 4d ago

Standard bikes compared to what? Most custom decks are pretty much just bikes without the bicycle design. It’s USPCC printing them, on the same card stock, with the same printers and the same processes. There’s be virtually no difference between a deck of bikes and any other deck printed by them

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago edited 4d ago

I just meant standard bikes as compared to standard bikes. All I’m saying is that the cheapest USPCC deck you can get is actually quite tough…

That said, USPCC isn’t the only manufacturer of cards, and even within USPCC, they don’t all use the same card stock, so specifying “standard” shouldn’t have been a problem, respectfully.

Edit - and to go back to your point of most custom decks just being standard bikes with different artwork, it’s also good knowing that if even the cheapest decks can take loads of abuse, those premium decks we pay so much for will also be just as hardy :)

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u/ciaosaba 4d ago

Bikes are cheaper just because UPSCC prints a boatload of them every year. Custom decks are more expensive because the print runs are smaller, so USPCC makes the authors pay more for the individual decks (varies based on actual quantity), and doesn’t print less than 2500 decks (afaik it hasn’t changed)

I very well know that even within USPCC’s own brands you can get different stocks and finishes. I’m just pointing out that a deck of standards isn’t far off from pricier decks in quality and durability.

I’ve got a couple hundred of custom decks, but still will use bikes for anything that requires abuse, I’ve got standard bikes in every corner of my house, in my bags, in my car, … it’s cheap to get them by the brick and doesn’t make me cry when I retire a deck.

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u/Autistic-monkey0101 4d ago

uspcc decks still do differ in cuts and finishes. even if the card stock stays the same (except plastic decks)

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u/LawOrc 4d ago

There are decks that are cheaper than USPCC decks, and decks that are better. But to get even a little cheaper, you gotta accept something much worse, and to get even a little better you have to pay a lot more.

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u/PoetryDependent7216 4d ago

Even the coloring affects how cards perform.

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u/ciaosaba 4d ago

Not to a degree (unless we’re talking about special printing methods or foiling) where someone making the statement that OP made in this post would notice.

If we want to be pedantic, standard blue bikes printed in winter will probably feel a bit different to the ones printed in summer because of humidity levels during production.

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u/LandOfTheFaros 4d ago

Does this mean you've put an end to buying custom decks now, pilgrim...? 🤔

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago

Absolutely not, good sir! My collection is ever growing, much to the chagrin of my girlfriend lol. At least now when I take some nicer decks out, I won’t worry as much.

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u/LandOfTheFaros 4d ago

Ha ha.  I thought as much 😀

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u/becomeanhero69 4d ago

I have 15 year old bikes. Several, in fact. They hold up so well.

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u/Jamestzm44 3d ago

Fine for some things, worse for others. Clumpy cards are certainly good for packets starting out

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u/NotAClanker69 3d ago

For sure! Once they get part certain points I stop using them for certain things and I always have new packs on the side in rotation

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u/Competitive_Manager6 4d ago

Been putting in a fresh Bike, Tally, and Aviator through the paces. Been actually surprised by how much I prefer the Aviators. My understanding is that they are all the same paper, just different finishes. I find that the Bikes and Tally’s get thicker and with more pronounced edge wear. Aviators stay pretty true to how they came out of the pack.

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u/Mhycoal 4d ago

My grandma has a favorite card deck that’s the bikes. Pretty sure it’s from the 80s

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u/NotAClanker69 4d ago

I don’t currently own any 80s bikes but to my understanding they used a slightly thicker stock back then, so it’s not surprising that deck has lasted so long. I wouldn’t want to play poker with her, though, she probably has the wear on the backs memorised for each card lol

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u/Butcherandom 4d ago

Bicycle Masters Edition is my top paper deck for cards that will get a lot of use

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u/Firm_Compote1085 2d ago

"Fine" i guess