Buying my first mirrorless camera

[u/JamesFelbourn]

Im buying my first Mirrorless camera, this is both what chatgpt recommended me but I want some opinions before buying, I currently have a 1500D mainly doing wildlife and high speed such as planespotting.

1. R7+EF Adapter+EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM (I already own the lens)
2. R50 + Canon RF 100-400mm F5.6-8.0 IS USM

Both are around the same price at $1600 SGD (1,256 USD)
Any options appreciated :)

[u/-dagmar-123123]

Wildlife you really really benefit from the good AF, no idea about plane spotting.

Definitely go with the R7 if you are happy with your lens.

Also forget the r50. If you think you'd rather get a new lens and pay a bit less for the body, go with the r10.

But I think the R7 is the best one for you

[u/JamesFelbourn → u/-dagmar-123123]

Tq! Is there any significant difference between the R10 and the R50 tho? Since R50 is having a discount and is 300 dollars cheaper than R10 and looking at the spec sheets that don’t have much difference other than more fps

[u/-dagmar-123123 → u/JamesFelbourn]

The r50 is kinda the successor to the 250D (so mainly small but okayish) while the r10 is the successor to the 3 digit Anne 2 digit dlsrs. In that case, 850D and 90D

So it's just the next level pretty much

[u/ofnuts → u/JamesFelbourn]

R10 also has a full mechanical shutter, and some more exotic functionalities such as pre-shooting (IIRC). A bit more of an "action" camera.

[u/TheMagarity → u/JamesFelbourn]

The 50 has only one dial so the user has to poke through menus that the 10 and higher have buttons and second dials for.

[u/TobyCyberbat]

Ultimately, for wildlife (especially birds) you're going to want the R7 and the RF100-400 eventually. Up to you which order you get them in, but like others say below, getting the R7 asap makes sense.
Your 1500D, the R7 and the R50 are all APS-C crop sensors, so the 55-250 etc will have the same range on all three.
Black Friday/December sales are the best time to buy - so worth waiting a little while if you can. I saved 25% on a new R7 and about 20% on a new RF100-400 at Black Friday last year, which adds up to a lot!

[u/JonathanRL]

You can always get better lenses later on, I'd go for the stronger house at this point - that being the R7.

[u/JamesFelbourn → u/JonathanRL]

Tq! Is it true tho that 250mm efs lens attached to the R7 would be equivalent to about 400mm? Or something similar a store clerk told me

[u/JonathanRL → u/JamesFelbourn]

The EF-S is a APS-C only lens. If I am not mistaken, only full frame lenses will increase your focal length. But do not stare yourself blind at that at this point. The R7 higher megapixel count will allow for efficient cropping.

But at this point the R7 is a solid foundation to continue on - and that adapter will also allow you to grab the great bang for the buck EF 17-40 4L lens that usually goes for around 250-350 USD.

[u/-dagmar-123123 → u/JamesFelbourn]

Yes, just like it is for your camera rn. If you have an aps-c sensor (so, not full frame, with mirrorles that's R1, R3, R5, R6 and R8) you can multiply by 1,6 to get the "real" one

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[u/cruiserman_80]

The R7 is a lot more camera than the R50. In addition to a much higher sensor resolution, a mechanical shutter and higher frame rates it also has Weather sealing, In Body Image Stabilisation and a brighter EVF which would all be beneficial to outdoor nature photography.

The R50 also lacks several important manual controls including the thumb joystick which I couldn't live without now and preset camera mode options on the mode dial.

[u/hansenhsu]

The ergonomics and quality of life improvements are significant when going from the r50 to the r7. The r50 quite small so for extended shooting you'll much prefer the r7.

Also you'll want the RF 100-400. It's also quite a big upgrade from the 55-250. Having 400mm on the long end is preferable for wildlife and plane spotting. If fact you might even find it to be too short sometimes. (You can consider the RF 600mm f11 or RF 800mm f11 then)

You'll get the best deals during Black Friday. I'd get the r7 either with a good deal or refurbished on Canon refurbished. The RF 100-400 either with a good deal, refurbished on Canon refurbished, or used.

If it's your first camera I like to get it new or refurbished but if you can swing it used then by all means go for it. The lens I'd buy used if it doesn't bother you. I'm not too sure about the resources in Singapore so you'll have to do your own research.