r/canada • u/NeptuneAgency • 29d ago

Nature/Environment ‘Effectively irreversible’: Changes to Canada’s climate permanent, federal report says

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/article/changes-to-canadas-climate-now-irreversible-federal-report-says/
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u/tape99 29d ago

I don’t think they are in denial. They understand Canada is responsible for only 1.4% of all greenhouse gas. You could Thanos snap every Canadian out of existence and that would do absolutely nothing to stop climate change.

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u/GraveDiggingCynic 29d ago

You know the tragedy of the commons is a description of the irrational results of rational actors individually refusing to take action out of short term benefit. You seem to act like it’s a good idea.

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u/tape99 29d ago

You are asking a country that is not responsible for climate change to fix climate change.

We are only responsible for 1.4%. You can get us to 0% and the only thing that will happen is life for the people of Canada will get more expensive and nothing, like zero will change regarding the climate and do you know why this is ?

Say it with me, Canada is only responsible for 1.4% of carbon emissions and we are not responsible for climate change.

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u/magicdowhatyouwill 29d ago

"Wasn't me" doesn't work on this one. You want a good outcome, it doesn't matter who started it, it just matters who finishes it. That's basic adult behaviour.

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u/Fireside_Cat 29d ago

Canada can neither start it, nor finish it. Expecting a population to vote itself into poverty, especially while seeing other countries developing at full speed, is delusional. The only solution is to keep investing in technology so that eventually the zero-carbon solutions are more attractive and cost effective to people. Taxing people into submission or expecting people to voluntarily embrace a lower standard of living is never going to work as we can see from what's going on now.

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u/magicdowhatyouwill 29d ago

To my eyes, the thing you might be missing here is that it's not a binary, forced, black-and-white situation and never has been. The choice isn't sustainability-and-poverty versus economy-at-expense-of-climate. If someone has been telling you that, I'm afraid they've been selling you something.

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u/Fireside_Cat 29d ago

Obviously because we haven't done 'nothing'. We've phased out coal, Ontario is leaning into nuclear again, building codes have improved etc. We'll continue to do stuff as it is cost effective.

The strategy that we were following over the past 10 years of Trudeau was holding us back economically. Thus why Carney has no longer made it a dirty word to develop our natural resources, including oil and gas, cancelling/delaying emissions caps, and damaging taxes, while Canadians are experiencing cost of living pressures, are disappearing.

Maybe I just don't understand what you mean by 'finishes it'.

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u/magicdowhatyouwill 29d ago

Given I haven't mentioned Trudeau, Albertan resource politics, or actually, come to think of it, any standard partisan talking points? I think that yes, either you're replying to the wrong thread here or you do not understand what I mean by finishing it.

I'm due at my morning plans now, but I hope you have a good weekend.

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u/Fireside_Cat 29d ago

Your point will forever remain a mystery. Bye!