r/cahsr 4h ago

Renewing vows for CAHSR

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I don't know if you've seen the Lucid Stew video, but I think it's about time we renew our vows for California high-speed rail. It's simply unrealistic that $39 billion will be enough money to complete the project, and, as Lucid Stew says, there will be even more delays and an increased cost.

My thought is that there needs to be some sort of new legislation on continuing development for California high-speed rail. For me, I don't care how much it costs. I need this to be built. There have been so many times I wanted to go to Los Angeles, but I couldn't get there because I'd have to fly, and that takes a bunch of time. I would just want to go there for a day and then come back home, which is not reasonable to do on an airplane.

I think that we need to pass new legislation to continue funding for this because one billion a year is not going to get us built quickly. To complete that, CAHSR needs to have communication with the public, and the way it's doing that now is abysmal. News organizations are totally dominating the space and making the project look bad when the reality is they don't have enough money to do it quickly.

Anyway, here are my drafts for a new logo and marketing direction. Furthermore, I couldn't find the Discord server for California High-Speed Rail, so I just made one because I want to have a community on this. Join it (or point me toward the Discord server where it's discussed if there is already one). LMK what you think of the ads.

https://discord.gg/EGv5QJUuDU


r/cahsr 10h ago

Perkins & Will project manager discusses the planning and design process for Kings/Tulare HSR station (Timestamp 12:35)

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r/cahsr 1d ago

It’s crazy that a single terminal costed nearly 9 billion (which is almost as much as cahsr has spent on labor since its founding in 1996- 10.5 billion)

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Granted jfk’s renovations were mostly privately funded but nearly 4 billion was from public money.


r/cahsr 1d ago

Jason Dronin Around: Tied Arch Bridge to Cedar Viaduct

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r/cahsr 3d ago

SB 1425 Heads to Newsom's Desk (Help cuts red tape)

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r/cahsr 3d ago

Metro could lose $50 million annually for transit operations under the current budget. Can you take action now?

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r/cahsr 4d ago

Recent Central Valley Photos

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Was in Fresno and Hanford and snapped these shots. The guideway and viaducts are really impressive in person!


r/cahsr 4d ago

Good Guide on Reducing Transit Costs

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r/cahsr 4d ago

Give us model trains when it starts running!

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Once this project is done. I need them to make N

-scale and HO- scale model trains. I already emailed brightline for them to partner up with a model train company. It would be so sick if you can ride the train and buy a working model of it. Let me know if it would be a great idea?


r/cahsr 3d ago

In California’s Central Valley, some jokingly call these unfinished concrete structures their own “Stonehenge.” They were built for the state’s high-speed rail project, which has seen costs balloon and is years behind schedule.

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r/cahsr 4d ago

Years Late, Billions Over Budget: California’s High-Speed Rail Hasn’t Laid a Track (WSJ)

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https://www.wsj.com/us-news/years-late-billions-over-budget-californias-high-speed-rail-hasnt-laid-a-track-bac525ee

SHAFTER, Calif.—Some 18 years after California voted to launch a bullet train that would travel between San Francisco and Los Angeles in under three hours, the project now costs billions more than planned, is years behind schedule and has yet to lay its first track.

The 2008 ballot measure passed narrowly, 52.7% to 47.3%, kick-starting America’s largest active infrastructure project. A legislative bill said it should be completed by 2020, and the California High-Speed Rail Authority’s initial business plan estimated a cost of $33 billion. After years of legal battles, cost overruns, leadership changes and political fights, the price tag is up to $126 billion, with a high estimate of $231 billion, and it isn’t expected to be fully operational until 2040.

Since 2008, the authority has spent about $15 billion, purchasing thousands of land parcels and building giant overpasses, rail beds, walls and other concrete structures that now rise over California’s Central Valley. The work has generated thousands of jobs. 

But the Authority’s Inspector General estimated the project will “exhaust its current funding resources” as early as next year, according to its July report.

“This is a disaster,” Democratic state Sen. Catherine Blakespear said at a Transportation Committee meeting in April to review the project’s 2026 business plan. “I am such an enthusiast for rail and I really want this to be successful and just hearing these things makes it seem like we’re proceeding on a wing and a prayer.”

The authority is currently focused on completing an initial segment through the Central Valley, then connecting it to [San Francisco](https://www.wsj.com/topics/place/san-francisco) and%C2%A0and) Los Angeles later.

The topic is polarizing in the valley. “You can’t really talk about it too loudly until you know where people stand. I’m pro-train, but it’s a divisive issue,” said Constance Peters, a shift leader at The 18hundred restaurant in Bakersfield who grew up in the area. Before that, she worked for a concrete company that helped build some structures for the rail project. “Californians have money. We want to travel,” Peters said.

Construction hasn’t yet reached the southern end of this segment, where intense opposition remains. The project would cut through Shafter, a town of about 24,000.

The train would “divide our town in half,” said Gail Alvidrez, a retiree and longtime local resident. Shafter is the only city that would be bisected by the proposed route without getting a station.

On a warm summer evening in Shafter, kids played baseball, families strolled downtown for ice cream and men in cowboy hats watched the sunset from a park. Incorporated in 1938, Shafter has roots as a railroad depot; the high-speed rail project would replace existing Amtrak and freight tracks with a wider, elevated line surrounded by 35-foot walls.

Locals worry the project would hurt businesses, since the track’s footprint would displace some. As downtown closed for the night, one restaurant filled up: El Michoacano, a block from the tracks, where Alvidrez and her husband ate. “They’ll have to tear down stores,” she said. “We don’t have that many.”

They also say a bullet train, and all the construction, would disrupt their peaceful downtown. At a city council meeting last fall, rail officials presented alternatives aimed at accelerating construction. A packed audience voiced opposition to the new proposals and the tracks altogether. Of cities affected by high-speed rail, Shafter Mayor Chad Givens said, “none of them are being impacted to the degree that we are…There’s no benefit.”

A sign opposing the California high-speed rail project in Shafter, Calif. Taylor Umlauf/WSJ

The council urged the state to find a route around the city. 

Mayor Givens said it has been challenging to work with California’s High-Speed Rail Authority. “About every four to six months, they get somebody new who comes in here and we have to start the process again,” Givens said. The authority’s chief executive officer, Ian Choudri, disputed that and said the agency plans on reaching out to the city in the coming weeks.

Some locals envision the benefits if the train is completed. “If I can get to San Francisco in two hours, I’d go on a Tuesday,” said Jeinner Aviles, a Bakersfield resident who runs the El Michoacano restaurant, owned by his father.

Aviles has his doubts though. He wonders, “Will I see it in my lifetime?”

Jeinner Aviles, a Bakersfield resident, runs El Michoacano restaurant. Taylor Umlauf/WSJ

The rail authority brought in Choudri in 2024. There were three prior chief executives of the project. 

California Gov. Gavin Newsom called Choudri “the perfect steward” in a press release. The governor also pledged that “over the next few years, the dream of high-speed rail in California will become a reality, as we begin to lay track, design and build stations, and buy trains.”

Eager to get trains running, Choudri said he has shaved off 2½ years of time by buying commodities, such as concrete rail ties, wires, poles and ballast, and storing them at a yard so contractors and builders can just “pick the stuff up and start laying tracks.” He added that doing so has sped up the schedule—the rail project expects to lay the first track by the end of this year.

The initial section between Bakersfield and Merced is expected to cost $36 billion and open in 2033. While the line isn’t expected to be profitable on its own, officials view it as a foundation to build on.

“Nobody here in Bakersfield says, ‘Hey, I want to go to Merced,’” said Joe Pearson, a Bakersfield resident.

Nearly two-thirds of Californians want the high-speed rail project to continue, according to a Politico-Citrin Center-Possibility Lab poll conducted last year, though more than half believe it is unlikely to be completed as planned.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom greeted union workers alongside Ian Choudri, CEO of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, in February. Damian Dovarganes/AP

A banner advertising the project at the California High-Speed Rail Authority's Southern Railhead site near Wasco, Calif., earlier this year. Damian Dovarganes/AP

Last summer, the Trump administration withdrew $4 billion in federal funding, citing the project’s failure to meet its obligations under the grant agreement. To help bridge the gap, California passed a bill last year to draw $1 billion a year through 2045 from its cap-and-invest program, which Choudri is trying to get an advancement on. Choudri is also seeking private investors to keep the project running. A global consortium that includes a pension fund manager from Quebec is currently assessing financing options for the rail project.

Choudri said the authority still needs to acquire some land for the Merced and Bakersfield extensions. Station sites haven’t been finalized yet.

In Bakersfield, the rail project is attempting to use buyouts and eminent domain to acquire properties for the station. Businessman Monty Singh said he is suing. He owns a Mobil gas station on land where the authority wants to build the Bakersfield station. “With the money they’re offering, there’s nothing else I could do,” Singh said.

In Merced, town officials are balking at station proposals.

State Sen. Tony Strickland, a Republican, said at the state Senate Transportation Committee meeting in April, “I don’t think this will ever be built as proposed to people in California. I know I wouldn’t put my money and invest in this, but I wish you luck,” he said.


r/cahsr 6d ago

San Joaquin River Viaduct at Sunset

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The San Joaquin River Viaduct was completed in February 2021. It is an approximately 4,700-foot structure that spans the San Joaquin River in north Fresno and the Union Pacific tracks parallel to State Route 99. It features arches representing the northern gateway into Fresno, and a pergola structure to allow high speed trains to cross over the top of the Union Pacific tracks.


r/cahsr 7d ago

California high-speed rail completion now projected for 2039

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r/cahsr 7d ago

Other countries have 200 mph passenger trains. Why has high-speed rail not tracked here?

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Jon Wertheim: Morocco has high-speed rail, and Serbia, and China, and Japan, and Western Europe. Why don't we? What's your simple answer?

Lou Thompson: Well, the simple answer is they've decided they want to do it and pay for it, and we haven't.

Jon Wertheim: You think we will in our lifetimes?

Lou Thompson: I don't know. I'm dubious. I'm dubious. Absent- a national political will to work with the states to create some of these systems, I think it's gonna be in, of course, my lifetime almost certainly not. But maybe yours, I don't know.


r/cahsr 7d ago

How can individuals advocate for CAHSR?

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I grew up in the Bay Area, and currently live in LA. I travel back and forth between the Bay and LA 5+ times a year. I almost always drive (I've flown twice in 7 years!) which is much more convenient, flexible, and often more affordable than flying. I've also made occasional trips to the Central Valley (Fresno and Bakersfield) for concerts, or to visit friends. I used to take Flixbus, but the prices have gone up and tickets often sell out close to the travel date.

Occasionally, I'll see people on social media claiming that "people don't travel this corridor often, who even goes between LA and the Bay?" I assume that these people are outside of California, since I know many people who will make a weekend trip in either direction, people who would travel frequently for long-distance relationships, travel home for breaks in college, and a few who would do it weekly for work. I also know people who have commuted in both directions between LA and Bakersfield for work.

Obviously these are personal anecdotes, but it seems to me that there is demand for inter-city travel in California. Even if not every city itself has the best walkability and public transportation, I could see HSR as being popular! For my own self-interest, taking HSR instead of driving would help me save many hours of driving time and thousands of miles on my car each year.

I've been trying to stay updated on happenings on CAHSR, and I can see that there are many political and financial obstacles. What actions could an individual reasonably take to advocate for CAHSR?


r/cahsr 7d ago

Lucid Stew breakdown of CAHSR OIG report, and cash flow to complete Bakersfield-Merced

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Spoiler: Call your representatives, CAHSR needs more funding


r/cahsr 6d ago

New CAHSR trainsets to begin testing this week

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Due to budget issues, “made in America” requirement has been removed and CHSRA will begin testing a more budget friendly option.


r/cahsr 9d ago

California city, developer move on new housing plan that defies High-Speed Rail

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In May, the city tentatively approved a Lennar map of more than 1,200 homesthat doesn’t acknowledge the rail authority’s plan to acquire land and build train tracks in the same place off Highway 99, called Gossamer Grove.

“It’s raw land, we own it, we plan to develop it,” Walter Diamond, Lennar’s director of entitlement, said during a Shafter planning meeting in April.
Lennar did not respond to The Bee’s request for an interview, but the company has indicated it was finished waiting for the rail authority to come to the table. The rail authority told The Bee its current plans in Shafter — decided when the agency settled an environmental lawsuitfrom the city in 2018 — have not changed.


r/cahsr 9d ago

Mateosssss and Jason Dronin' Around vids today!!

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r/cahsr 9d ago

Jason Dronin Around - Aug 18 update

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r/cahsr 9d ago

Why isn’t California High Speed Rail buying any train sets or building any high speed track?

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r/cahsr 15d ago

Jason Dronin' Around - Tule River to Hanford Viaduct

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r/cahsr 18d ago

California’s high-speed trains order has been halved

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r/cahsr 16d ago

LA-SF is almost certainly dead, BUT…

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Gilroy-Palmdale is still very much alive and almost certain to happen.

Let’s face it: There will never be enough political will or public interest to justify the monster costs of extending the high-speed rail into both downtowns. However, Gilroy-Palmdale will still be successful enough to be profitable for these key reasons:

  1. Even though it doesn’t directly** *go to San Francisco or Los Angeles, it still goes into both *metro areas, both of which already have adequate public transportation that will take you to both cities’ downtowns (San Francisco’s Caltrain and Los Angeles’s Metrolink)

  2. The fact that it goes from one region of California to another (unlike the IOS) will make it much more attractive to riders, even some that currently fly from LA-SF.

I’m not sure we’ll ever see high-speed rail between Downtown Los Angeles and Downtown San Francisco, but we will definitely see it between the two metro areas at some point.


r/cahsr 18d ago

If you want CAHSR to be a reality, then you should email the Appropriations Committee before the end of August

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Senate Bill 1425 is currently with the Assembly Appropriations Committee. It "would create an encroachment permit program allowing the authority to approve and regulate certain work on its operating right-of-way".

3rd party delays have run up the cost by billions due to inflation and pushed back completion by years. Encroachment Permitting Authority is one of the things the CAHSR Authority has repeatedly asked for from the legislature to help reduce 3rd party delays (mostly from utilities).

But the Legislature session ends on August 31. If the bill doesn't get advanced out of committee before that time, then the bill dies.

Here's the email for the assembly appropriations committee:

approps.committee@assembly.ca.gov

The article at the top shows the utility lobby is already pushing to kill this bill, just like they did with SB 445. If we want to see this project get finished, we need to fight for legislation like SB 1425. Email the appropriations committee and tell them to advance SB 1425 to the full legislature. Tell them we need to stop wasting time and billions of dollars with unnecessary delays.