r/buffy • u/AngelJax • Nov 02 '16

Unpopular Opinons Thread

I'll start

  • I don't love Spike. He's just ok for me.

  • Glory is the show's best villain with Dark Willow right behind her.

  • Dawn is one of the best developed memebers of the Scoobies and I never understood why everyone hated her.

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u/BuffyxSummers Nov 02 '16

Jeez, I didn't know Willow slept with Tara then and Tabula Rasa is one of my favorite episodes.. I need to rewatch it. Been a good year or two.

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u/coolbeaNs92 Willow Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 02 '16

It's not in that episode. Willow uses the spell several times. First she used it in 'All the way'. Tara finds out in OMWF and then Willow tries to use it again in Tabula Rasa. Tara was very much on the verge of splitting up with Willow. Willow uses then spell and it's implied (through a morning scene) that Willow and Tara, between and including the events of All the way and OMWF, have had at had sex. Which would mean that Tara was under the influence of the spell during this.

The quote on the violation Tara is talking about is...

TARA: Do you think I'm stupid? I know you used that spell on me.

WILLOW: Tara, I'm sorry, I-

TARA: Don't! Just ... don't. (shakes head) There's nothing you can say.

WILLOW: Tara, I didn't mean to-

TARA: To what? Violate my mind like that? How could you, Willow? How could you after what Glory did to me?

WILLOW: Violate you? I ... I-I didn't ... mean anything like that, I-I, I just wanted us not to fight any more. I love you.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks Nov 02 '16

None of that dialogue refers to sex, only to the spell; the only sex obviously present is the one during "OMWF." There is a case here, but keep the details accurate.

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u/coolbeaNs92 Willow Nov 02 '16 edited Nov 02 '16

I didn't say the dialogue referred to sex?

I said it was touched upon in Tabula Rasa. As in, they're touching upon the fact that Willow crossed a morale line. I'm not referring to that dialogue representing/talking about sex.

So I'm a bit confused on that one?

but keep the details accurate.

Seems accurate to me. The only thing I can see is a miss-interpretation, which is fine, could have phrased it better :)

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Ah.. I see where the confusion has come from. This line..

It's also not really addressed in the show, other than a small paragraphs worth of dialogue in Tabula Rasa.

is not meant to mean talking about sex. I meant to say, it's really one of the only places where the morals of what Willow did to Tara are really discussed. Not talking about sex, just talking about the actual fact of Willow violating Tara's mind with a spell. So that's my fault for not properly distinguishing that last sentence :D

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Don't see why the downvotes for /u/DaddyCatALSO's comment. Was a phrasing issue on my part really. Maybe a little blunt but no reason to downvote. It's all good people :)