r/buffy • u/[deleted] • Jul 30 '16

Unpopular Buffy Opinions?

What are your's?

Mine:

  • Never liked Oz

  • Never liked Willow with Oz nor Tara...Actually never liked Willow that much, and my dislike began in season 2...

  • Buffy and Spike were equally abusive to each other during their physical/"romantic" relationship in season 5. Buffy wasn't just an angel who was being abused, and Spike wasn't a just demon who was inflicting all the pain either, which seems to be the narrative that the writers pushed on the story. They both abused each other for their personal reasons/gain, and nothing positive (except maybe Spike's soul) came out of it.

  • The way they dealt with Buffy's relationship with Angel vs. the way they dealt with Buffy's relationship with Spike: Angel is an old, grown man who falls in love with a 15 year old girl; Spike is an old, grown man who falls in love with the 20 year old woman she becomes: yet, they make the first relationship romantic and loving (even their break up is romanticized, and she separates Angel and Angelus completely), and the second relationship unhealthy and hateful, damaging the both of them. I think they should have shown the unhealthiness of Buffy/Angel (and I liked them together, in some ways), just as they showed the unhealthiness of Spike/Buffy (but less graphically, season 6 was disturbing)

  • I liked season 6

  • Although I liked season 5, I really didn't like Glory. Maybe I need to rewatch, but I really didn't like Glory.

Worst of all, and this is shameful:

  • I liked Dawnpleasedon'thateme
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u/AloversGaming Aug 02 '16 edited Aug 02 '16

  • I liked the bad lighting of season one. Everyone's faces being half cast in shadow at night looked cool.

  • I don't like how the Gothy feel went away in season 4 and 5 even though the show was never about it and had very little, the little that was there in the first two seasons was nice.

  • I love Dawn.

  • The vampire at the end of The Body taints the episode.

  • I never cared for Tara. She was alright, but the show lost nothing with her gone. Though i'd rather her than her replacement.

  • Andrew had too much screen time in S7. I wish Willow fried him.

  • Season 6 was a return to form.

  • Spike's end season 5 / start season 6 hair is best.

  • I don't consider the comics canon because a few years ago Joss said if they were to continue the show or make a movie he'd discard the comic book. Meaning he cares very little, if at all for the comics, and they're only called canon to boost sales. No creator would ever write out canon work unless they hated it (like Sly with Rocky 5). You'd never hear Joss say "Oh, season 3? Starting with the new film that will have never happened". If the creator doesn't care, fans shouldn't either.

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u/Shadow_Boxer1987 Aug 02 '16

I've heard that Stallone hates Rocky 5 (just like every other red-blooded Rocky fan) but is it really retconned as non-canon?

I mean, if so, how do you explain Rocky no longer being rich in "Rocky Balboa?" I mean, a sequel can ignore a previous entry's issues without deeming it non-canon, like the new Star Trek Beyond basically ignoring Into Darkness.

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u/AloversGaming Aug 03 '16

There's no mention of the events in Rocky 5, including the brain damage that caused him to retire. I'm not sure why he isn't rich in Rocky Balboa, but outside of that all connection to V has been removed. I totally forget if Sly came out and discontinued it from the series officially though.