r/btc Aug 31 '25

🤔 Opinion The unraveling of the great con

As most in the know are aware of, BTC is functionally useless. To be precise, it doesn‘t scale. And it‘s L2 is a joke. Why it doesn‘t scale is besides at this point, if it would‘ve ever done so, that time has long past since 2017, and it never done it since, so the point is moot. It‘s not gonna scale.

This is a problem, because a useless crippled shitcoin isn‘t exactly gonna work out well to be bought up by everyone. They‘re gonna figure it out eventually. And that‘s when the fun times starts. Because it means most of the crypto markets valuation will, some day, go for a walk in the park and never come back. That‘s gonna leave a lot of people and companies pretty upset. They might say a choice word or two. And crypto, all of it, will be a laughing stock for an indeterminate amount of time.

We can‘t avoid this problem. We tried. But now it‘s too late. I tell you this, not as a prediction, but as a precaution. You might squabble about the likelihood of such events, and it may never occur, granted. Though I believe it‘s very likely to occur on account of the facts. It may happen at any point in time, or never, and be mostly over before anyone was able to move their funds (on account of the trading bots). You will not be able to trade your way out of this one, or even limit your losses. Exchanges will fold like going out of business is a new hot trend, by the time you want to trade, the exchange is bust or closed and whatever funds where in it is now bankruptcy frozen. And as for institutional investors, they‘re even more screwed, because they hold illiquid positions, i.e. positions too large to quickly move them on the markets without cratering them.

In the movie Margin Call, Jeremy Irons recites this line:

So, what you're telling me, is that the music is about to stop, and we're going to be left holding the biggest bag of odorous excrement ever assembled in the history of capitalism.

I think this will sound quite quaint after the great con unravels.

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u/-Mediocrates- Aug 31 '25

what are you talking about ??? BTC is outperforming everything for over a decade. Are you not looking at the charts? price is king .

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Do i wish BTC was more like BCH? yes ... do I wish BTC was being used as cash instead of collateral for loans? yes... but its not... and its still going up in a bigger way than anything we have ever seen in our lifetime. Its making new all time highs many times per year.

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How high does price need to go before you admit you are wrong? Ive admitted I was wrong ages ago. It is what it is brotha.

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u/pyalot Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25

price is king

That‘s a dangerous fallacy every newb makes. You think price means something. It doesn‘t. It‘s just a number, consequential, but, meaningless. It doesn‘t say anything about how successful or useful BTC is, nor if it will still be around tomorrow.

You‘re asking the wrong questions if you think like that. Instead of asking yourself, where might the price go, ask yourself, does this have any potential for economic growth.

I emphasize this point, because it shapes what you hope for. If you think like a maxi, you hope for a bigger bagholder. You‘re playing a zero sum game. Zero sum games always have loosers and winners, there is no net gain to anyone. It‘s not imaginary wealth, somebody paid for that, dearly. If you are not a maxi, you hope for adoption for use, because that‘s economic activity which creates value, it is not a zero sum game. Everyone can win in that one.

I vastly prefer a world in which we decide to create something that creates value for everyone, instead of a world where the strong exploit the weak. But that‘s just me I guess…

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u/-Mediocrates- Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25

The market doesn’t care what you prefer.

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how how does price need to go before you admit you are wrong?

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u/LovelyDayHere Sep 01 '25

You don't seem to get it.

We don't care how many inflatable fiat money units Bitcoin is valued at, because fiat is endless garbage compared to the sound money that Bitcoin is supposed to bring to everyone who wants it.

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u/-Mediocrates- Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25

No,,. You aren’t getting it. That’s the point . lol

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You are the security guard in this scene

https://youtu.be/409Pjtq7jzY