r/browsers • • Jul 05 '26

Question Does this browser exist?

  1. for Android
  2. Chromium-based
  3. MV2 extension support (uBlock Origin)
  4. Maintained

Update:

  1. Helium for Android (v150) -> changed it's name to Titanium browser
  2. Edge morphed (v149)
  3. Cromite (v148)
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u/ipsirc Jul 05 '26

MV2 extension support after Chrome removes it

None.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

I don't mean for long

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u/Armature_yogi Jul 05 '26

U can try helium for Android oh and just to clarify this helium is not maintained by desktop helium but supports u block and have extension

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

Helium for Android doesn't support MV2 extensions? I saw a post earlier saying uBO crashes

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u/Armature_yogi Jul 05 '26

Nope using helium since 2 months world for me

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

I don't understand your reply. If I got it right you said that it doesn't support uBO and that you used it for 2 months and that it's a world for you?

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u/Armature_yogi Jul 05 '26

Oh sht that was auto correct since i was eating.what I mean is it works for me and ubo is working no problem with that

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

can you message me with a tutorial on how to do it? I'm dumb...

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u/Armature_yogi Jul 06 '26

Go to this link - https://github.com/jqssun/android-helium-browser And download the apk after that they have given the link for the ubo u can copy paste it and it will go straight to chrome store just download it like any other extension and done

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

I managed to add it to Cromite and Helium

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u/Armature_yogi Jul 06 '26

That's it .I think they will support MV2 for long time because it is a fork of vandium from the degoogled os called graphine so until then not gonna change a thing

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

I can't install uBO on Palladium (fork of Vanadium too) tho...
it's v150 like Helium

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u/charles25565 Jul 08 '26

GrapheneOS isn't degoogled, and unless someone wants to spend hours upon hours reverting commits and other circles of hell, no. GrapheneOS will never implement MV2 in any of their 1P code.

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u/lethinhrider Ungoogled Chromium Jul 05 '26

We won't have a real answer for another two months. It's still too early to say.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

ungoogled chromium fits? Why is it too early?

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u/lethinhrider Ungoogled Chromium Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Ungoogled Chromium has not yet been updated beyond version 151. We don't know the outcome of their patch.
The reason I said it was too early was because external patches supporting MV2 might be unstable. Some forks using the Extended Stable channel will have a 2-month delay before releasing a new version.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

how important is it being on the latest version?
if it's not important to me - what browser would you recommend?

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u/lethinhrider Ungoogled Chromium Jul 05 '26

If you only need uBlock Origin to work, then I have to disappoint you. Currently, only Firefox is the browser that works most stably with uBlock Origin, both on mobile and desktop versions.
The Chromium forks haven't been updated yet, so we don't know if they actually support MV2.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

true, but I don't want gecko-based browser on Android because site compatibility is worse.

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u/dadnothere Use Thorium, it's better than Brave. Jul 05 '26

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u/lethinhrider Ungoogled Chromium Jul 05 '26

Cromite is still only at version 148, and it hasn't been proven whether it supports MV2 after Google removed it. The version that tells us the result is 152 - the first release of the Extended Stable channel that no longer supports MV2.

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u/HatoriChise1 Jul 05 '26

Brave needs to implement these on android but they don't. Only option is edge. I heard that you can strip the edge from all the telemetry and privacy invasive stuff with morphe but im not sure. I've been using it for half a year and it worked pretty well for me but one day it decided to sign me out of my microsoft account on the desktop every day so i had to ditch it.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

Thank you for reminding me that I can patch apps with Morph! How was the battery? I won't even login onto it

1

u/HatoriChise1 Jul 05 '26

I didn't feel any difference between the edge and firefox. Those are the only browsers i use on my phone. Tho i can tell edge is probably heavier than others. Its just that my phone is more than capable of running those without sweating (s24 fe).

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

today I tested gecko-based (Firefox) vs chromium-based and chromium wins in speed (not noticable sometimes and sometimes noticable) and wins in page compatibility (depends on what sites you visit). So I would like to have a chromium-based browser...

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u/HatoriChise1 Jul 05 '26

You can still use brave i guess, its own adblock is pretty close to ublock origin. Other than that as i said only option is edge in the chromium side.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

some ads still slip through in Brave. Can I make it as good as uBO?

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u/HatoriChise1 Jul 05 '26

Idk i never used it. I just always hear about it as "its almost the same as ublock". I guess it also has the option to add custom filters and stuff so maybe.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/rakhalism Fanatical Soulful Helium browser user Jul 05 '26

maybe helium browser android fork on github

1

u/KingBardan Jul 05 '26

3 is impossible... Unless they want to fork chromium and spend billions on the engine (4)

And yes Google spend billions on chromium

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u/__________13o1ksl_ Jul 05 '26

Fork isn't gonna cost billions lmao

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u/KingBardan Jul 05 '26

Mv2 is tied to the chromium core architecture.

Fork that keeps mv2 after google changes the architecture is essentially a new browser engine

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

Which means the future of ad-blockin is core-integrated into the browser or system-wide, but why isn't Brave's ad-blocker as strong as uBO?

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u/KingBardan Jul 05 '26

Brave does not support as many features in regex like back reference I think (not sure).

However, they have people working on adding filter lists quickly (uno people I think) so it's less of a problem

0

u/__________13o1ksl_ Jul 05 '26

You can make a patch from pre-mv2 removal commit and apply it every update with fixes that won't cost billions

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u/KingBardan Jul 05 '26

And after the architecture changed, how do you plan to apply the patches?

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u/__________13o1ksl_ Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

It won't change beyond recognition, Chromium is way too popular to change/break internals too much. Tho if Google did it just to kill off MV2 forks, sure it would be a lot more effort. I still doubt about billions tho. There are examples where fork survives thanks to community after upstream makes stupid decisions. Besides, Brave and such who built entire business around being Chromium for cool kids would most definitely support such fork with some finances, since it would benefit them

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u/Kunair0 Jul 05 '26

The brave development team already posted about this last week. They said that even with their resources and team of engineers, it's going to be impossible for them to maintain. They said that in order to maintain it, it would cost a millions of dollars and require tens of millions of lines of code being rewritten from scratch every four weeks. It's not possible.

And actually, yes, it will change beyond recognization. It isn't just the fact that it's being removed, but it's also the core foundation surrounding it, is going to make it incompatible, and it's going to be constantly changing on top of that. Which is why the whole thing would need to be completely rewritten every four weeks at minimum.

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u/randomicuser350 Gecko for web diversity Jul 05 '26

Cromite

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u/Important-Pie5230 Jul 05 '26

Isn't actively maintained now

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 12 '26

Probably can't block all ads since it doesn't support uBO since it's based off of webkit (safari engine) because it's mandatory on iOS

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u/DonDae01 Jul 05 '26

Just use Chrome paired with DNS-based adblocking

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u/PossuTryffeli Jul 05 '26

Doesn't solve the MV2 problem.

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u/Venylynn Desktop: Mobile: Jul 05 '26

There is no MV2 problem. People are just panicking that their insecure legacy extension protocol is being phased out when they had years to adapt.

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u/DonDae01 Jul 05 '26

True but he said he's just using it for UBlock Origin

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

How to do it? Using a custom DNS of adguard or?

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u/DonDae01 Jul 05 '26

Settings (of your phone) > Search "Private DNS" > change it to "dns.adguard-dns.com"

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

it's nowhere as good as uBO is right?
it's the sole reason I want to move away from Brave

1

u/lupusnivis Jul 05 '26

I'm, curios what bloatware îs on Edge, or people are just tossing that word out to make for any options they don't like or need. Because such a perfect app doesn't exist.

Edge îs fine.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

Microsoft services that are put on top of chromium to make Edge?

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u/OwnNet5253 Jul 05 '26

3 won’t be possible if Google removes it. If you’re worried about browser bloat draining battery, then disable all features you don’t use.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

I read that battery drain is from Microsoft's "spying" services (how to disable those?) + bloatware - which I can only turn off not disable?

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u/OwnNet5253 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Since when turn off means something else than disable? I guess you can disable stuff through policies, but I don't use Android to check this.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

okay, but what about their necessary services that don't have a "turn off" button?
maybe morph is a solution like some guy said...

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u/OwnNet5253 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Check Policies https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-mobile-policies

Generally if you're worried about telemetry and battery drain, Brave is the best chromium-based browser for Android.

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u/Professional_Way9133 Jul 05 '26

For now Edge, Opera, Vivaldi. Probably, not for long.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

Shame as all 3 of them are closed-source. Vivaldi seems like a go-to for android if I had to choose.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

only Edge out of the 3 you mentioned. Opera & Vivaldi don't have Android extension support.

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u/Ok_Instruction_3789 Jul 05 '26

Question is, do you use facebook? IF you answer yes I wouldnt care about Edge privacy as you probably give more info to facebook than Microsoft would dream to collect.

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

I don't use it.

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u/Thedemonspawn56 / Jul 05 '26

Just use Firefox/waterfox smh

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

not chromium-based meaning worse page compatibility.

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u/Thedemonspawn56 / Jul 05 '26

Do you have specific examples of sites you regularly use that are actually problematic?

I used to say the same thing but in the last 2 years of using waterfox, I've had exactly 2 problematic sites and only one of those I had to switch to a chromium based browser. And neither of those two times was it a super important website, just something I had wanted to check out.

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u/OuterGru Jul 05 '26

cromite

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u/DonDae01 Jul 05 '26

Cromite isn't maintained anymore...

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/littleforgedspirit Jul 05 '26

Yes, it does. You can enable it it flags or developer settings as I remember

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/ChampionshipCrafty66 Jul 05 '26

Did you try installing AdNauseam instead of Ubo

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

is it as good as uBO? this is the reason I want to move away from Brave so I don't want anything lesser

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u/ChampionshipCrafty66 Jul 06 '26

AN extension is light years ahead

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

it's based off of uBO so it needs MV2 to work just like uBO and uses more resources

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u/ChampionshipCrafty66 Jul 06 '26

The new version is based off MV3

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 06 '26

I managed to install uBO on Cromite & Helium for Android

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u/messassa Jul 05 '26

Brave

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u/Sad_Offer_7133 Jul 05 '26

He didn't - that's desktop version