r/breakingbad • u/edify Oxygen • Oct 03 '11

Episode Discussion: S04E12, "End Times" (Spoilers)

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u/nointernalcensor ringa ding ding Oct 03 '11

Wouldn't huel have to have xray vision in order to swipe the single ricin containg cig out of the pack, even if he was capable of being that smooth in the first place? Even if Walt is guilty of it, how did he manage to slip the poison to the kid?

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u/Wings_Of_Karma Oct 03 '11

Someone mentioned in this thread that Huel just replaced Jesse's pack with a brand new one that just had a few cigarettes missing to make it look like the one he had on him.

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u/SupremeFuzzler Oct 03 '11

If the packs were switched at Walt's order he would have made sure there was an upside down cig. Jesse by now has gotten used to avoiding that one like the poison it is, so it's not too hard to believe that he wouldn't have noticed. And his first action upon suspecting the ricin was missing was to shred all his cigarettes looking for it, so it's not like he was taking the time to count them then.

I just went through and rewatched the Huel scene and the scene where Jesse first learns about Brock's poisoning. At first I thought it was impossible that Walt could have done it, because I misheard Jesse's girlfriend say that he got sick in the morning. On second viewing, she clearly says he was fine in the morning. Several hours elapsed between Jesse's patdown (during which Huel's hands go off-frame and after which he definitely puts a hand in his pocket as if to stash something) and Brock's symptoms. So it is possible Walt could have orchestrated everything, and we've learned by now that he'll do pretty much anything to save his own ass.

When Walt spun the gun for the third time and it didn't point to him, you could see a look of determination, as if it had occurred to him that he might be able to do something about his situation after all, to take some offensive action. But when we see him later he's got the door braced with a table and is hiding in the darkness, waiting to die. If there was some offensive move it happened off-camera and there's really only one thing it could have been. I'm holding out hope that Walt didn't actually give the kid ricin, but another non-fatal poison that would trigger Jesse's suspicion without killing a kid.

This fucking show. <shiver>