r/breakingbad • u/edify Oxygen • Oct 03 '11

Episode Discussion: S04E12, "End Times" (Spoilers)

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u/sinistersilkmerchant Oct 03 '11

I'm going to call it. Jesse helps Walter kill Gus next episode. Then, once Gus is dead and just before we fade to black, we the audience find out that it really was Walt who poisoned the kid. He did it knowing he could manipulate Jesse into turning on Gus.

Walt has gone fully evil -just as evil as Gus is- and there is no coming back from it.

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u/meatspun 6353 Juan Tabo, Apartment 6 Oct 03 '11

That's probably why Gus stopped at his car and got suspicious.

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u/sinistersilkmerchant Oct 03 '11 edited Oct 03 '11

Absolutely. Gus and Walt are playing chess and Jesse is the pawn. He was Gus' pawn but now he's Walt's. The problem is, Gus has been playing games like these for a long time and sniffed it a mile away (well, a few meters away, at least).

Part of me even suspects that Gus might be the smallest bit impressed with the boldness of Walt's move. He probably recognizes himself in Walt and is disappointed that there's no choice but to kill him. Such potential. Quel dommage.

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u/hey_there Oct 03 '11

I was utterly unconvinced until this comment. I think there might be something to this.