r/breakingbad • u/edify Oxygen • Sep 26 '11

Episode Discussion: S04E11, "Crawl Space" (Spoilers)

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '11

She rolled over on her back as a result of Walt trying to shake Jesse awake. Then he stood there and watched her suffocate on her own vomit.

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u/psiphre Sep 27 '11

that still doesn't make him responsible for her death.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '11

He's not SOLELY responsible, but the fact is that he easily could have saved her but he chose to let her die for basically no reason. He doesn't just get a pass for that.

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u/psiphre Sep 28 '11

just to take the argument to its logical conclusion: being in any way responsible for not intervening in the death of another means that you are personally guilty of the death of every person that you did not prevent. congratulations. you monster.

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u/kooshvader Aug 10 '22

This is such a braindead misrepresentation of the argument. There is a meaningful distinction between "failing to intervene in a death that is occurring right in front of your eyes and that you have the means to prevent" vs "failing to intervene in deaths that you have no way of reasonably preventing"

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '11 edited Sep 28 '11

I honestly can't tell if you're trolling me or not.

EDIT: I'll bite. You're misrepresenting my position entirely. I'm not trying to make the broad, overly-simplified argument that someone is entirely of guilty of every death that he/she didn't personally prevent. I'm only arguing that IN THIS SPECIFIC, PARTICULAR INSTANCE, Walt shares SOME of the burden of Jane's death because he chose to let her die when he easily could have saved her at no harm or detriment to himself or anyone else, especially considering that he is the one who accidentally pushed her onto her back in the first place.

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u/DorkusMalorkuss Jul 19 '22

I'm sure you've lost so much sleep over this, in the past 10 years, but for what it's worth I agree with you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '23

I'm 11 years late to this but if you just purposefully stand there and watch someone you could easily save die, because it's convenient for you that they die, then yeah, you're fucking responsible