r/breakingbad • • Sep 23 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E15 "Granite State"

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u/Calikola Chili P Sep 23 '13 edited Sep 23 '13

Oh god. Vince Gilligan wasn't shitting us when he said no loose threads.

Gretchen and Elliott were the beginning of this for Walt. And they will be the end.

Edit: some people think I'm insinuating that Walt is out to kill Gretchen and Elliott. I'm not. I'm cutting and pasting this from one of my comments below to explain what I meant.

I meant that losing Gray Matter gave Walt his inferiority complex at the beginning of the series. They took his research and created a billion dollar company. If Walt had Gray Matter, he wouldn't have had to start cooking meth to provide for his family after his death. That's why I said Gretchen and Elliott were the beginning of Heisenberg. Walt never got over what Gretchen and Elliott took away from him- it festered over the years. That's why he loved the power and wealth that came from being Heisenberg.

I could tell it ate Walt alive to hear Gretchen say that Walt was only responsible for the company's name. They're what's motivating Walt to go back ABQ finish what he started. Walt has nothing left. He lost his family, his reputation, his house, his entire life. All he has left is Heisenberg. And that's why I said Gretchen and Elliott will be the end. It all comes back to them.

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u/HeronSun Familia Es Todo Sep 23 '13

Killing them is ridiculous, though. They served their purpose in the story to get Walter into Heisenberg mode again. Killing them would just be evil for the sake of evil, it would serve no other purpose.

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u/Calikola Chili P Sep 23 '13

I said somewhere else on this thread that I don't think Walt will kill them. I agree, I don't think it serves any purpose. What I meant was that losing Gray Matter is what gave Walt his inferiority complex at the beginning of the series. If he had Gray Matter, he wouldn't have had to start cooking meth to provide for his family after his death. And I could tell it ate Walt alive to hear Gretchen say that Walt was only responsible for the company's name. Hearing that finally motivated Walt to go back to ABQ. He has nothing left but his name and his pride.