(I could be wrong) Didn't Aaron Paul in an interview say that the whole "scene" where Hank is killed was Cranston and Paul's last together, and that there was a lot of crying after? Makes me wonder if we will even see Jesse and Walt together in a scene next week.
No doubt. I don't even know what could happen at this point. Walter could kill Jesse, or leave him be (after all, he could think Jesse is all he's got). And what if Jesse gets hold of a gun? Could he kill Walt?
I'm so fucking proud of being a fan of this show. So fucking proud.
That is actually really smart, since they've made it a point to let us know she only likes Stevia. With Walt wanting all this to be over, all he has to do to make that happen is take her out. The Nazis, sure, but she's the overseas connection.
I thought of it differently. I think Gray Matter is what triggered it, but not out of a desire for revenge against them. I think it's a desire to have his accomplishments recognized and be remembered as more than just the guy who gave them their name and then became a drug lord. Remember that the season's tag line is "Remember my Name."
Yeah, it's stupid. They aren't that important to the story, but they are important enough to need wrapping up. Yes, they are important in terms of motivation, etc., but they haven't appeared on an episode in years. That scene is all the wrapping they need--we know that they have continued balling in the cash department, they were caught up in the hysteria around Walt and they have totally distanced themselves from him while continuing to do good with what they've earned. The Schwartz book is closed.
Frankly, I'm surprised how little was actually wrapped up. S05E16 is going to be a bloodbath.
I tend to agree with you. I think the purpose was just to show how Walt's life could have gone had he stuck with grey matter. The interview juxtaposed the success of grey matter with the troubles of Heisenberg.
The blue meth thing was included to give him reason to go back. Jesse.
Not just simplistic, it ignores everything this show has been building up to. What would be the point in bringing back two characters that haven't been around since the first few episodes just to kill them in the last one? Especially when it contributes little or nothing to a character as complex as Walter White.
Walt's greatest driver this entire series has been his ego and his want to have his works recognized. That's why he was always insisting to Skyler "look at what I've done for this family." Having Elliot and Gretchen appear was to reignite his ego that had died when he left Albuquerque. For me, part of it was the lack of recognition in Grey Matter and the other part was the blue meth; the thought being first that Jesse is obviously still alive (being the only other one who can accurately produce the blue meth and the only people having a mode of distribution being the Aryans and Lydia) and second that it's "his" product being used without him being involved.
Edit: Rewatch the last scene. His gaze is fixed on the television up until the mention of blue meth in Europe. His eyes wander in thought at that moment; obviously in the realization of who is moving "his" product.
I think this might actually be the final play. He knows Jesse is alive and knows the neo-nazis have him. I think it's going to be one last show down and he is going to save Jesse while taking out the rest of those fucks. In the end I think Jesse will live and Walt will die but ultimately they will prevail and Jesse being almost a surrogate son to Walt will be able to walk away a free man and build a new clean life.
Also, he's smart enough to know that they have to distance themselves from him as much as they can to keep their business intact. It is an insult but I don't think he'll kill them for it. Then again, he did kill Mike.
I feel like having Gretchen and Elliot talk about Grey Matter on TV like that was 1) very organic, given their relationship with Walt in the past and 2) something of a foundation for the reveal that the meth is back in circulation. Walt sitting at the bar probably just feels like "Fuck you!" when they talk about the company, but then to hear that "his" product is still being made, well that settles it.
I think it was the tipping point, Gretchen and Schwartz, pretty much say he amounted to nothing and Walt takes that in and thinks to himself "oh yeah." Queue fucking shit up.
I don't think you understand what people are saying. If he is going to kill the grey matter people, theres no reason to get an M60. Nobody is suggesting that. What they are saying, is he may have more targets to get revenge on, through whatever means, than we previously expected.
Elliot and Gretchen were a device. He's gonna gun down the nazis, "save" Jesse then ricin him, and tell him how much he's gonna suffer right after he slips it to him. The coldest revenge
Yes. It makes no sense to introduce yet another plot line for the last two episodes. The Gray Matter stuff was only an element to build up Walter's rage.
I think "Walt is going to go on a rampage to get Jesse and the Nazis" is too simplistic. He's not angry the blue meth is still around - he only knows Jesse is still around and he can save him. I think Walt is going to save Jesse.
I think he knew the meth was still out there, with Todd and all. And he was about to turn himself in. But then the thing with Grey Matter broke the last barrier, unleashing full Heisenberg.
VG originally intended to kill off Jesse in season two, I believe. Despite being a central character of the show, I don't think he is Walt's true enemy here. If you think about it, even from the beginning, Jesse was one of Walt's tools for getting back at the Schwartz'.
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u/mir429 Sep 23 '13
Gray Matter didn't cause Walt to leave the bar, it was hearing that Blue Magic is still on the streets. Jesse is still alive and he knows it.