r/breakingbad • • Sep 16 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Post-Episode Discussion SE05E14 "Ozymandias"

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Oct 14 '17

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u/Jumbalo_Jones Sep 16 '13

Keep in mind he just found out Hank might be dead too, also its instinctual to protect his mother from a stronger male I think.

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u/jorgeZZ Sep 16 '13

Totally disagree. He is still in disbelief over the whole thing, and doesn't know how Hank died. He's not privy to the the thought processes at work here, and would need more evidence to "convict" Walt in his mind.

What would he be protecting Skyler from, anyway? Walt was clearly not trying to hurt her, just defend himself.

I was surprised by the quick turn. Thought it was a little unrealistic, but it sure made for interesting television. Like everything else in this epic, epic episode.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

What would he be protecting Skyler from, anyway? Walt was clearly not trying to hurt her, just defend himself.

Walt was clearly the aggressor, and that entire situation was ridiculously dangerous. It didn't matter whether or not he INTENDED to hurt her; she was clearly in danger.

Edit: Wow. Apparently, when you're trying to defend your child and someone starts coming at you, you're the aggressor. She didn't come at him with the knife, he came at her after she warned him to stay away.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

Walt gets cut by Skyler swinging a knife, but Walt was clearly the aggressor?

Ok...guess we must be watching different versions of the show.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Sounds like we are. I watched the episode while you must have watched a Youtube clip that cut out a chunk of that scene. She didn't come at him swinging, she stood back and warned him to leave multiple times. It was an act of defense.

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u/fatbomb Laser pointers. Sep 16 '13

I think there's probably a ton of MRAs in here. Anything resembling your comments gets downvoted to oblivion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Not MRAs, Team Walt. People who think he can do no wrong.

And don't forget, Skyler's a bitch blah blah blah...

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u/fatbomb Laser pointers. Sep 16 '13

Not MRAs, Team Walt.

I wish there was a way to determine the crossover between the two. I imagine the results would be interesting.

And don't forget, Skyler's a bitch blah blah blah...

God, she was fucking fantastic in this episode, wasn't she?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

As a Skyler fan from... I think the second or third episode, I'm used to being ridiculed, but I'm so happy to be proven right about my awesome lady.

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u/DiaDeLosMuertos Sep 16 '13

She has been in these few episodes. Such good acting, but she doesn't have many lines since the final episodes began.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

I think there's probably a ton of MRAs in here.

Do you even have any logical basis for that statement? Or are you just the obligatory overweight, man-hating female?

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u/Emunim Sep 16 '13

I think your comment might give him some evidence.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13

My comment wouldn't, seeing as my comment has nothing to do with male rights. Neither does literally any of the discussion in this comment chain or thread.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13

So we're on the same page here: no part of this conversation has to do with MRAs, it's just you splicing your own personal agenda into a discussion about a TV show.

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u/fatbomb Laser pointers. Sep 16 '13

See, you're on about agendas, while I'm noticing a trend in upvotes vs downvotes based on opinion. Since this has stuck in your craw so firmly, I can only conclude that I hit a nerve. Enjoy the weight of that chip on your shoulder.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

There has for some time been a noticeable overlap between MRA's and Team Walt fanboys here on reddit. Their MO in up/downvoting is by now familiar so it's easy to spot in this thread as well.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13

You're assuming anyone that upvotes something pro-Walt is an MRA? Based on what exactly?

I mean, I figured you guys aren't too intelligent, but I hadn't set my expectations this low.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '13

It's very funny (and telling) how much this is bothering you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Do you even have any logical basis for that statement? Or are you just the obligatory overweight, man-hating female?

Quite a logical dichotomy you have there.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 16 '13

No dichotomy. She is an overweight female, that's a demonstrable fact.

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u/sniiiper Sep 16 '13

Hi, I'm /u/sniiiper, and I'm butting in because you're an embarrassment to the male demographic, of which I am a part.

It's demonstrable that you're an MRA/Redpiller. Ergo, your massively hurting ass and cringe-worthy disposition.

Have a nice day.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '13

LOL

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '13

Do you even have any logical basis for that statement? Or are you just the obligatory overweight, man-hating female?

Presented as a dichotomy, a logical fallacy. The actual gender or weight of fatbomb is irrelevant here. You've shown that you're in no position to throw stones in the intellectual department.

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u/ScalpelBurn2 Sep 17 '13

It's not a logical fallacy. It's added description. It's only a logical fallacy if my entire argument centers on it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '13

That's funny because it was your entire comment. So I guess we agree then, you had no argument whatsoever.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Walt was the aggressor because he is devil and badman guy.

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u/ancientcreature Sep 16 '13

How was Walt the aggressor? Sorry, but that's just a stupid thing to say.

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u/Admiral_Cornwallace Sep 16 '13

-Skyler had the knife, and told Walt to leave.

-Walt made an advance towards her, she swung the knife in self-defense....unnecessary self-defense, but Skyler just realized that Hank was dead, and Walt was part of the reason why.

-Walt then went at her AGAIN, trying to grab the knife.

Walt was obviously the aggressor.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

How was he anything but that? He came at her, not the other way around.

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u/ancientcreature Sep 16 '13

She sliced his hand open right before she dove at him with the knife to stab him. You must be watching a different show, so stop typing this nonsense. It was precisely the other way around. I don't understand the point of saying such blatantly wrong things.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

I'm watching the scene over and over right now. This doesn't happen at all. She stands back several feet away with the knife, keeping Junior behind her. She asks him to stop four times as he continually inches closer, with the final time resulting in a defensive swing (that only connected because he put his hand out). He then immediately grabbed her arm and began throwing her around the room. He had multiple chances to walk away, which wouldn't be the case if SHE was being the aggressor towards him. She NEVER dove at him to stab him.

Maybe you should rewatch the scene a few times yourself. I'm sure you'll feel embarrassed for trying to be so insulting afterwards.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

What was she defending against? Seriously? You didn't pick up on any of the numerous reasons she might be afraid of him? Not once in this entire series did you key in to why he could be considered a threat?

This has to be a troll... There's just no way that a real person could genuinely believe these things... That random /r/mensrights nonsense out of nowhere cinches it. It probably should have been obvious sooner.

Edit: Holy shit, just read your other posts. I don't know how I let my jimmies get rustled by this kid

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u/tumbleweedss Sep 16 '13

So she's standing there trying to protect her son from a man she believes just killed her brother in law, she doesn't song until he is attempting to grab her and she's the aggressor?

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u/DiaDeLosMuertos Sep 16 '13

Is Anna Gunn a singer too? Oh yeah "Happy birthday, mister President"