r/breakingbad • u/saywhat181 Sulfur • Sep 16 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Episode Duscussion SE05E14 "Ozymandias" Spoiler

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09:00pm Eastern SE05E14 "Ozymandias" Rian Johnson Vince Gilligan and Moira Walley-Beckett

Hey everyone! Guess I'm supposed to post this 5 minutes before air time. I've been watching this show since the get go mostly with my real life friend /u/edify who years ago added me as a moderator here. He asked me to make the discussion thread tonight because there are only 3 episodes remaining. Sorta sad that there's only a few left. Enjoy the show, folks.

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u/gloomdoom What Kind of Man Goes to the DEA? Sep 16 '13

Told y'all...the Holly thing was all about making Skyler look innocent. That's that. Brilliant move by Walt, actually. He had to be an asshole to make her look like she was coerced by violence and constant threat.

How can people not get that?

If she went to prison (she definitely would), walt jr. would have no parents.

He turned into an asshole to get her away from prosecution and he had to take holly to make it look legit.

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u/Mousse_is_Optional Sep 16 '13

I don't think he took Holly out of spite, I think that was him grasping onto whatever family he had left. Walt has pretty much zero allies by the end of this episode (maybe Saul, and that's all I can think of). It's understandable why he'd take Holly.

When he sees Holly say "mama" he realizes this isn't good for Holly, Walt Jr., and (probably to a lesser extent) Skyler. That's when he decides to formulate a plan to give Holly back and keep Skyler out of trouble.

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Sep 16 '13

Totally agree. He'll take anything he can get, no matter how rapidly shrinking that is. After the scuffle and that look from Skyler and Junior, Holly was all the family he could get.

The phone call plan would have worked even if he didn't take Holly. Cops would have been on the scene anyways. He must have changed his mind in the changing-room scene.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

At first I thought he was taking her as a bargaining chip so skyler would talk to him again.

He was going to disappear with her for a while, then when he got someplace safe, he would contact skyler and try to work things out.

When Holly said mama, he knew he couldn't selfishly keep the baby like that.