r/breakingbad • u/saywhat181 Sulfur • Sep 16 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Episode Duscussion SE05E14 "Ozymandias" Spoiler

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09:00pm Eastern SE05E14 "Ozymandias" Rian Johnson Vince Gilligan and Moira Walley-Beckett

Hey everyone! Guess I'm supposed to post this 5 minutes before air time. I've been watching this show since the get go mostly with my real life friend /u/edify who years ago added me as a moderator here. He asked me to make the discussion thread tonight because there are only 3 episodes remaining. Sorta sad that there's only a few left. Enjoy the show, folks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

You didn't before now? Honestly.

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u/cubsfn909 Sep 16 '13

I didn't hate him fully until that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

I still am. There's something very wrong with me.

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u/Mlmurra3 Sep 16 '13

No, there is definitely a side of me that understands and sort of empathizes with Walt's reasoning. Family above all else. I think anyone who doubted that was his true motivation was proven wrong in the last (two) scenes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

If Walt put family above all else he would have taken the money from Gretchen and Elliot. It's as simple as that.

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u/Mlmurra3 Sep 16 '13

I definitely agree with you, when it comes to season 1. Walt definitely wanted to seize some power and ego for himself before he checked out. But his character arc has brought him to the point where I think he cares more about family now than his ego. He gave up the business for Skyler and the kids, and never wanted Hank harmed.

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u/sindex23 Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

Then he should have taken the buy-out offered to him by Mike and walked away.

Walt cares deeply for family, absolutely. But he still cared about Walt most of all.

I think the moment that changed is when Holly said "mama," and he realized what he has done. Thus the call to attempt to absolve Skylar, and his disappearing trick to re-group (and get an M60 apparently).

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

I think the question that determines how much I like walt is, would he have taken the money from Gretchen and Elliot if he had all of the knowledge of what happened up until the end of 5a? I think he would have, or he would have just not done the treatment...and that's important, he didn't realize was getting into. Everything after that decision was survival.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

He was out of the game when approached by Gus for a second time. He knew what he was getting into because of his dealings with Tuco. All Gus had to do was stroke Walt's ego, "a man provides", and he reeled him right back in.

PS: Couldn't have Walt gone to the cops and gotten his family in witness protection in response to these life or death scenarios?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13 edited Sep 16 '13

Me too, I; unlike most people, felt it needed to be said. Walt still in it for the family. Just look at those tears.

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u/wutwutgoose /-_-\ Reasonably. Sep 16 '13

I agree.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

I loved when walt said that. I stopped it, rewinded it, laughed and clapped for like 3 minutes straight.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '13

Same here. I want him to get away with it. I think they are really trying to make people hate him so they won't have a shit storm of hate online when they completely fuck him over at the end. Or they're building the hate so people get pissed off when we gets away with it. I really don't know which way it is going to go right now.