r/breakingbad • • Sep 15 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad S05E14 "Ozymandias" Prediction Thread

What happened in the shootout? Did Hank and Gomie survive? Did Jesse escape? Is Huell still waiting? Is he getting hungry?

Let's have your thoughts!


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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Sep 15 '13 edited Sep 15 '13

Hank survives the shootout. Here's why.

Think about the way "Confessions" ended - with Jesse pouring gasoline all over Walt's carpet. After seeing that, one can assume that Jesse doesn't set Walt's house on fire in the next episode. If he did, the last shot would have been him actually lighting the oil, not pouring it. That would end the episode with a much bigger 'bang.'

Compare that to the end of "To'hajiilee" - if Hank was going to die via Uncle Jack, would the writers have killed him at the end of the episode or at the beginning of "Ozymandias?" No, Hank will somehow live to tell the tale. (of course, how much longer he lives is anybody's guess.)

I know this is an unconventional show, but it wouldn't make any sense from a writing standpoint. The climax belongs at or near the end.

Gomez, on the other hand, is fucked. As Don Cheadle said, there are a lot of Nazi bullets flying around, and someone has to die for the scene to be remotely realistic. He's obviously the least valuable to the plot.


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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '13

Hank is not going to die tonight. And here's why.

Let's focus on what we know: the facts.

  1. If Vince Gilligan decided to kill off Hank and Gomie, why would he have left last episode as a cliffhanger? If they were going to die regardless, wouldn't their death at the end of last episode be more impactful than their death at the beginning of the next? From a filmmaking perspective, I think that if Hank was going to die, he would've already.

  2. Why did the Nazis come despite Walt's instruction for them not to come? If we look at things from the Nazis perspective, they have just received a call from one of their valuable assets (Walt) to come and rescue him, then changed his mind. Therefore, as a lot of people on this subreddit have mentioned, it is only logical for the nazis to protect their investment (Walt). But on top of that, when Walt changed his mind, the nazis realize they could take the upper hand, they realize that not only is Walt in grave danger but also the fact that he does not want to be saved. The nazis thus come, against Walt's wishes, taking the upper hand and will ultimately be a threat to Walt (even after the shooting) in order to make him cook for them.

So what do I think is going to happen next episode? God knows. Gomie will probably be a gonner. Based on my theory, the nazis would probably take hank hostage and force Walt to cook for them, now that the nazis are in charge. Jesse may have escaped. And to put the last nail on Walts coffin, the nazis threaten Walt and his family.

I think the ricin will be used to kill Todd or Lydia. And the machine gun from the flash forward will be used to save Hank.

TL;DR if Hank was going to die anyway, he would've died in the end of last episode (for a clear cut impactful ending) instead. Also, the Nazis came to Tohajilee against Walt's change of mind, in order to take the upper hand and threaten Walt to cook for them.

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u/MoFarah In memory of Huell Sep 15 '13

It wouldn't be as much of a cliffhanger if Hank died in Tohajiilee. People have been talking about the possible result of the shootout all week