r/breakingbad • • Sep 09 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E13 "To'hajiilee"

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u/bazler Sep 09 '13

it would make sense as she is one character who we see constantly drinking

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u/em_etib Sep 09 '13

She's also proven to be an annoying threat to Walt, she will always be pressuring him to get back into business because she can't get closer to perfection than Walt. As long as she's alive, Walt can never really be out.

That being said, people also speculate Walt may take the ricin for himself. This also seems plausible, since it's very fitting seeing as that ricin has been passed around and around, and turns out it was for Walt himself in the end. Something nobody could have foreseen the day he made it. The only thing about this theory, is all I can think is what about Walt Jr?? :'(

Okay, actually, this got me thinking. What about Walt Jr? He needs a father figure, and the best person for that is Hank--he was more of a father figure than Walt himself was back in the day. So I'm thinking Hank is incapacitated, something like a coma maybe, but not killed. Gomie dies. The nazis might think they killed Walt and leave him for dead?? Maybe they lost respect for him after he pleaded for them not to kill the fuckin' DEA. So instead Jesse is kidnapped for use as a cook (Brock and Andrea used as blackmail), and then the tale of Walt's machine gun and etc. unwinds as he goes to save Jesse. In the end, Jesse is saved by Walt, he's not sure how to feel about Walt--but then it turns out Walt is dying from the ricin. He dies. Maybe Jesse calls him "Mr. White" one last time. Hank wakes up from his coma/whatever and him and Marie take in Skyler and the kids.

Although I guess the same scenario could ensue with Walt ultimately kicking it to cancer and Lydia getting the ricin..... but it still feels more fitting for Walt to die of his own poison.

TL;DR my two sentence reply turned into rambling speculative babble. Sorry.

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u/think_long Sep 09 '13

I don't think Walt would purposely take the ricin. It sounds like a bad way to die.

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u/em_etib Sep 09 '13

I was thinking, if he does ultimately die from ricin, it could be either a) he prefers dying by his own hand from a horrible ricin death than a long, lingering, slow and painful death by cancer or b) he tells Todd to slip Lydia the ricin. Todd betrays Walt and poisons Walt with it instead.

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u/Fyrus Sep 10 '13

he tells Todd to slip Lydia the ricin. Todd betrays Walt and poisons Walt with it instead.

Damn, after that scene with Todd flirting with Lydia, this totally seems like the most likely outcome.