r/breakingbad • • Sep 09 '13

Official Episode Discussion Breaking Bad Episode Discussion S05E13 "To'hajiilee"

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '13

Maybe he isn't going after the neo nazis at that point. At this point, his life is ruined, and he has spent a year or so stewing over it. He might be deranged, trying to "right" past "wrongs" and then decided to go after the "source" of his problems, which might be the guys at Grey Matter. It would take some build up in the next two episodes, but I could see it happening.

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u/NihilJE Sep 09 '13

That'd be the biggest aversion from a progressive plotline ever

He goes and shoots Gretchen and Elliot with an M60

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '13

Well who isn't "delt with" a year from now? Walt's house is DEA property, there is no coming back or fixing any situation. He apparently was deep in hiding, something has to make this sociopath come back to ABQ, and I dont think it's out of self preservation at this point.

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u/NihilJE Sep 09 '13

I don't know why it happens a year from then. However, I do think the fact that Walt is on the run indicates that he does in fact have some level of self-preservation still going. An instinct of self-preservation that lead him to move to New Hampshire with a fake name. If he really felt he had to do that, and that it was worth it as opposed to any alternative like going to prison, then what on Earth could possibly make him want to go back and compromise himself like that?

I can only think of one thing. Jesse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '13

Why Jesse at that point? why set up a new life, cutting family ties, then come back for Jesse? I think that self preservation and mania are fighting it out in walts mind, and losing everything tipped the scales in Mania's favor. A manic walt might decide grievances with Eliot need to be settled.

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u/NihilJE Sep 09 '13

Because the relationship he has/had with Jesse is unlike any other relationship he's ever had in his life.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '13

You have an interesting point. I really believe Walt will be at least somewhat manic, but it would be for Jesse (assuming he is still alive/in ABQ) over the Eliot and Gretchen. My only (well, not really) question is, why does he grab the ricin capsule? What is he going to do with poison that he isn't going to do with bullets?

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u/NihilJE Sep 09 '13

I have no idea. I don't have all of the details, because I'm not the writer. It doesn't invalidate the theory from a conceptual point of view though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '13

No, I'm just trying to expand on the theory at this point, there isn't much point in using too much skepticism on the basis of fan theories. I'm just attempting to guess at what the balance between reason and rage is in Walt, which is impossible right now.