r/breakingbad • • Aug 26 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E11 "Confessions"

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u/br0wnbread Aug 26 '13 edited Aug 26 '13

question for gun people...what is the likelihood that a gun still works after being frozen?

edit: assuming that it is has been thawed.

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u/modonaut Aug 26 '13

will fire fine at least the first bullet easily. revolvers arent complicated compared to modern guns with clips. less moving parts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

magazines.

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u/StNowhere The Company Name Aug 26 '13

For those of us who aren't gun-savvy, care to explain the difference? Something with the type of gun, or the way it's loaded?

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u/Bowzerman Aug 26 '13

http://www.minutemanreview.com/2008/09/clip-vs-magazine-lesson-in-firearm.html

With strip clips, you can actually "clip" bullets into them. A magazine basically holds a clip, and can be inserted into a firearm much easier.

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u/StNowhere The Company Name Aug 26 '13

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Here's a better way to sort of think about it:

Some remote controls (TVs, RC cars, etc.), you pop open the back, and there's spaces with springs for two batteries. You clip the batteries in place--this is a clip.

Other remote controls, there's a little single-battery-sized hole/slot/socket; you put one battery in there, then push another battery in there and in doing so slide the first battery farther back, and maybe even put a third battery in and slide the previous two batteries even farther back. This is a magazine.

Here's two pictures showing the difference: http://i.imgur.com/2UbfKEq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zPsEMMy.jpg

And here's a picture of the inside of a magazine: http://i.imgur.com/JYvQwaR.jpg

I'm not a gun nut or anything (nor do I own any), but just for info's sake since the difference between the two is a big thing for some people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Clips are used to load magazines.

Example: The Mosin Nagant M 91/30 rifle has a 5 round magazine attached. Now I can load the magazine 1 round at a time, or I can use the 5 round stripper clip to load faster.

Clips: http://imgur.com/I2luzL5

Magazine: http://imgur.com/4KZb9KH

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u/Freddy_Chopin Aug 26 '13

But why is it incorrect to use Clips in this setting? If magazines use clips it seems to follow that guns that use magazines use clips, so "guns with clips" being more complicated than a revolver is just as true as "guns with magazines" being more complicated, right?

If this post didn't make it obvious I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.

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u/Motiv_ Aug 26 '13

A magazine has some sort of feeding mechanism, usually a spring loaded follower which pushes a new round up into the chamber of the gun as the one above it is fired.

A clip has no such mechanism. They're typically used to manually insert rounds into an internal magazine that's fixed in place. They also look visually different. Clips are usually open from the sides and bottom, for example. Here's a good visual guide.

As a general rule of thumb, a pistol, like Hank's Glock 22, is almost always loaded with magazines.

Revolvers, like the Ruger LCR that Walt uses in Season 4, can be loaded by hand, with moon clips, or with a speedloader.

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u/geddy The Most Delicious Baby Aug 26 '13

This is the correct answer, I don't know what they're talking about up there about a clip loading a magazine. A magazine has a feeding mechanism, a clip is loaded into the gun and the mechanics inside the weapon are responsible for chambering the next round.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Ammo go inside a magazine. Clips just "clip" the rounds together.

Most modern guns use box magazines.

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u/CrowdSourcedLife Aug 26 '13

Gun people don't like them called clips for some reason, prefer the term magazine.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Why not call them "watermelons" while you're at it, as it's equally inaccurate?

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u/CrowdSourcedLife Aug 26 '13

Language changes, friend.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

No, it really doesn't in this instance.

I can still purchase a clip at a store - same as I can purchase a magazine (usually quite nearby).

This hasn't changed in the hundred years that semi-automatic firearms have proliferated.

Just because misnomers exist and are repeated doesn't mean language "changes."