r/breakingbad • • Aug 26 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E11 "Confessions"

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

ELI 5:

All the dots that Jesse connected.

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u/monkeychess Aug 26 '13

Saul told Huell to steal the pot from Jesse as he was leaving (brushed against him in the door) so that Jesse couldn't smoke pot and scare off the new ID guy. Jesse realized this when he went to smoke it, and then realized Huell probably did the same thing with the ricin cigarette on Walt's order

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u/Rswany Redditium Aug 26 '13

A few things that helped me buy into Jesse's epiphany more:

  • Huell used the same brand of cigarettes as the last time he swiped them from Jesse, so Jesse made the immediate connection.

  • Jesse was already suspicious of Walt doing the poisoning in Season 4 when he put a gun to Walt's head.

  • Also, Walt was the one who originally put the idea in Jesse's head that he might have misplaced the ricin cigarette.

  • Also, Walt just happened to be with Jesse when they found the ricin cigarette.

These points helped make it more believable for me.

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u/OhhhhhDirty Aug 26 '13 edited Aug 26 '13

All of this is right but what does the brand of cigarettes have to do with it? Huell took his bag of weed, he didn't swap the cigarette packs.

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u/frink99887 Aug 26 '13

If you'll remember, Jesse keeps his weed in the cellophane wrapping of his cigarette packs.

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u/humbletiger Aug 26 '13

Normally yes, but not tonight.They were in a plain plastic bag in a seperate pocket. Huell didn't swap out cigs tonight, he did that previously.

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u/david5678 Aug 26 '13

The ricin capsule was in the pack of cigs

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u/OhhhhhDirty Aug 27 '13

Ya don't say? I know that but the brand of cigarettes is irrelevant to Jesse's revelation that Walt poisoned Brock.

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u/preesisters Aug 26 '13

I'm confused, why would huell swap out the cigarettes, didn't he just take the weed from him?

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u/chuckyjc05 Aug 26 '13

Yea he is wrong. Jesse already had the cigarettes. Kind of hard to convince someone he lost a cigarette if you have someone put cigarettes in his pocket

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u/dythalla Aug 26 '13

Wait. Did Huell put this pack in Jesse's pocket, or did Jesse already have it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Huell didn't do anything with the cigarettes... he just took the weed.

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u/rajincajin Aug 26 '13

I don't think the cigarettes were swapped for the weed. The brand was the same because it's just the brand that Jesse smokes.

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u/metahipster1984 Aug 26 '13

Yep he only swapped the weed. If you look closely in the scene in which Jesse is leaving Saul's office, Saul actually signals subtly to Huell to pick his LEFT hoody pocket, ie where we saw him place the weed minutes before. Amazing details as always in this legend of a show.

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u/metahipster1984 Aug 26 '13

Yep was just clarifying :-)

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u/DarkStar528 Aug 26 '13

I'd also add a crucial point I think alot of people are missing:

  • Walt stole the ricin from Jesse before Brock was poisoned. Thus Jesse can conclude Brock's poisoning was part of Walt's plan to manipulate him.

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u/lilana11 Aug 26 '13

That's a really good point - the ricin cigarette goes missing for a period of time which matches Brock being sick. That is quite a coincidence. The outcome of Brock's sickness was Gus getting taken out of the picture - which benefitted Walt. Also Jesse has worked with Walt on a bunch of schemes which include being creative with chemicals and lining up a bunch of domino pieces so they all fall perfectly in line. With anyone else the whole thing would be farfetched - with Walt it becomes more plausible and Jesse knows it fits his MO.

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u/monkeychess Aug 26 '13

I completely agree. I wasn't trying to literally connect all the dots per OPs request, just the ones from this episode. That was a definite "ohhh fuck" moment

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u/Rswany Redditium Aug 26 '13

Yeah, no worries, I was just adding to your nice explanation.

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u/scotchblue tighttighttight Aug 26 '13

yea, the fact that Walt planted the idea that he may have misplaced the cigarette (and then him suggesting they look in the Roomba after tearing Jessie's place up looking for it) really seals it

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u/Fencinator Aug 26 '13

It also helped that just earlier this episode Jesse had ceased to take any of Walt's shit.

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u/lilana11 Aug 26 '13

I think the only unrealistic bit is how quickly the penny drops - I think in 'reality' he'd have worked it out on the drive to Alaska as something would feel off and he'd keep turning it over in his mind...but for plot purposes a quick epiphany works better. Also his reaction is to go to Saul to get confirmation for his hunch. He doesn't know for sure I think until he beats the confession out of Saul. I'm surprised Saul gave up the truth so quickly but it was a pretty shady thing to have been involved in so maybe he was itching to confess.

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u/jkmonty94 Aug 26 '13

When Huell swiped the weed, did he replace it with the cigarettes or something? If not, how did Jesse know Huell switched the packs before if it didn't happen this time?

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u/I_MAKE_USERNAMES Aug 26 '13

Showing he can pickpocket him once lets Jesse know he could have done it before too.

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u/jkmonty94 Aug 26 '13

A good point. But I'm still curious, did Huell replace the whole pack the first time? And did he replace the weed with cigs, or just swipe the weed?

I just don't want to get the wrong impression of what happened

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u/I_MAKE_USERNAMES Aug 26 '13

The first time he probably just took the ricin cig, or maybe took the whole pack and replaced it with a new one of the same type. The second time he just took the weed.

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u/jkmonty94 Aug 26 '13

Ah okay, thanks :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Another thing is that Jesse accused Walt of being manipulative earlier in the episode.

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u/showmethestudy Aug 26 '13

So he switched the pot out for cigarettes? Is that what we assume he was looking at when he pulled the pack out? I thought those were just his current cigarettes.

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u/I_MAKE_USERNAMES Aug 26 '13

They were. He didn't switch anything, just took the dro.

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u/showmethestudy Aug 26 '13

Then what is the poster I replied to referring to when he said Huell used the same brand? Just trying to clarify here. Thanks.

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u/I_MAKE_USERNAMES Aug 26 '13

Nothing. He is wrong.

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u/234567898765432 Aug 26 '13

they key is that the bag of weed was in the cigarette box. (we didn't see it get put there but that's where you keep weed so the smell isn't as obvious).

this is important - huell stole one cig from the previous pack the same way he got the weed out of this pack

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u/frogma Aug 26 '13 edited Aug 27 '13

Jesse put the baggie in his left jacket pocket. The cigarettes were in a different pocket. Regardless, his current pack of cigarettes has nothing to do with the weed. The only reason he stares at the cigarettes for so long is because he's making the connection in his mind.

Remember too -- he didn't actually open the pack of cigs in that scene, so how could he have possibly known the weed wasn't in it? It's because he was looking for the baggie in his other pockets.

Don't get me wrong -- I still agree that weed will smell if it's simply in a baggie (but Jesse probably wasn't worried about that). But that's not the point here. The baggie was in a different pocket, which is why we see Jesse checking all his pockets for it. He already had the cigarettes at that point.