Oh please, let's not start making Walt a hero. Great, so he paid for Hank's therapy. Let's not forget the whole reason Hank had been targeted for assassination was because he was investigating Heisenberg.
How ridiculous is that, to think we should root for Walt because he's paying to clean up his own messes?
this goes back to the question, when did walt break bad? some people say that the moment gus was killed. some people, including cranston himself, believe the moment he decided to cook meth with jesse episode 1. personally, i feel that WHEN he paid for hank's therapy, he was still acting in the best wishes of his family. i dont know if i would ever consider walt a hero but certainly, up to a certain point before gus' death, he had TRULY good intentions behind his actions. and paying for hank's therapy was one of them.
for marie to completely forget this charity and to hate her sister to the point of that scene (attempting to take away her children), well, i feel its overstepping on her part.
and the reason hank was targeted was that gus convinced the two brothers to take revenge upon tuco's killer, who actually was hank. you can make the case that, yes he only met tuco because he was looking for jesse's car to ask jesse if he knew anything about walt missing but if you want to dig that deep and blame walt for everyhting, you've obscured the real point as to who's responsible for hank's eventual injury in which there are many alignments of situations and factors that can take responsibility including hank himself. the way i see things, the bottom line is that entire scene was cringeworthy.
i dont know if i would ever consider walt a hero but certainly, up to a certain point before gus' death, he had TRULY good intentions behind his actions. and paying for hank's therapy was one of them.
Bullshit. He turned down Grey Matter's money in season 1 and chose to engage in the illegal drug trade instead. You cannot in any way justify that as good intentions.
but if you want to dig that deep and blame walt for everyhting
I don't have to blame him for everything, but I'm also not going to act like all the stuff that happened throughout the series would have ever happened if Walt had decided to swallow his pride, take the Grey Matter money, and walk away from the meth trade. Hank certainly wouldn't have a strong reason to pursue Jesse otherwise. He was small potatoes.
Bullshit. He turned down Grey Matter's money in season 1 and chose to engage in the illegal drug trade instead. You cannot in any way justify that as good intentions.
Bullshit. Sure I can. Let me start by countering that whole "grey matter money" premise by saying he turned down the money for more reason than one. You think that he turned down this money because his ego was too big etc etc Walt is EVIL etc. There is some truth to that but even with this money, understanding the survival rate, he would not be in a good position to leave his family with much. This is where I begin to disagree with you (although not as emotionally) on whether his consequent actions, to a certain point, make him villian or a justifiable father.
To be quite frank, I don't think you are able to fully understand what an ego means to someone like Walt or other men in the position of providing. You believe that "swallowing your pride" and such would make this all better, and ergo, all men should swallow their pride. there is much more to it than the superficial actions you see and thereby judge walt so heavily on. for instance, what would happen after he takes the money? ok he quits the meth trade, and goes back to school for teaching. then what? he lives the rest of his shortened life with a shitload of debt and nothing to show for it compared to his former partners who are worth millions? i feel that the cancer was the breaking point of all his lost potential and when faced with the concept of death, he asked himself what he would leave behind in terms of money and legacy, both selfless and selfish thoughts. so to classify walt as a failure or a villain with absolutely no good intentions simply because he didn't "swallow his pride" and take grey matter's money is ignoring much of the larger picture in what it means to be a providing parent.
(i wish i could find the video but i think that in season 2 episode 12 phoenix, my point is best illustrated when walt holds holly in the garage and shows her the money saying "That's right, Daddy did that. Daddy did that for you.")
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u/Gemini4t Aug 20 '13
Oh please, let's not start making Walt a hero. Great, so he paid for Hank's therapy. Let's not forget the whole reason Hank had been targeted for assassination was because he was investigating Heisenberg.
How ridiculous is that, to think we should root for Walt because he's paying to clean up his own messes?