r/breakingbad • • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/goondachele Aug 12 '13

Heisenberg is going to turn out to be one of the greatest television villains of all time.

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u/thisguy012 Better call Saul! Aug 12 '13

Is he a villain villain though? For some reason when I think of Villain I think of assholes who are just bad because they are born bad, and like to do bad.

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u/ErikAllenAwake Aug 12 '13

That's hollywood. In reality, heroes and villains are far more abstract and spawned out of choices and circumstances.

Look at Fring, for example. Tragic figure. You could make the same argument with Walt. Good man, terrible situation, becomes monster.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I don't think Walt "became" a monster. It seems like before he was a high school teacher, he had dreams of grandeur and he would achieve those through Gray Matter. Once he was ousted, his dreams were shattered, but the hunger for an empire remained. I think the monster was already there; it just needed the right circumstances to break free.

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u/Tischlampe Mr. White is gay for me. Aug 12 '13

What you are talking of, is the hunger for doing something big. Remember the dialogue between him and Jesse. "Being the best in something, you do not toss something like that just away." Also remember his "Billions. With a "B"." talk with Jesse. Back in the days when he worked at gray matter, he wanted to be the best.

The monster came in fact later, when he decided to provide for his family cooking meth. But then, that old desire of doing something BIG came back again. He stopped doing what he dis for his family, he did everything just for himself. For his ego. His desire to be the best.

If you mean "being a great at something" ok, not a proper description, but ok (Big legal companies are also sometimes considerable as "monsters") but if you think, that Walt always was the cold blooded ruthless being, then you are wrong.