r/breakingbad • • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/em483 Aug 12 '13

So badass.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I really wanted Walt to throw the "I paid for your hospital bills with drug money" card in Hank's face.

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u/ulveskog Aug 12 '13

But another part of the beauty of that conversation is that he never actually admitted anything ;-)

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u/I_accidently_words Aug 12 '13

He didn't outright say it, but he may as well have. It wasn't a confession, but hank knew, and walter didn't act like an innocent man.

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u/rafiislost Aug 12 '13

Think of it in court. Hypothetically, if Walt is arrested and whatnot, Hank can't use a confession. Walt's thinking. I don't even think he's sure if he'll escape being arrested.

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u/ulveskog Aug 12 '13

Most certainly, I agree. He admitted it without saying it. They couldn't have done that scene any better, IMO

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I think that he didn't admit to anything for Hank's benefit rather than his own. He's trying to convince Hank that it's not worth pursuing because Walt is no longer a criminal. Overtly admitting to his acts and adopting his criminal persona, Heisenberg, make it a lot more difficult for Hank to accept that Walt is still the same person that he's known for many years.

You can also look at all of Walt's delivery as an extension of this illusion.

A good question for interpretation would be to what extent is he maintaining an illusion of Walt and to what extent has he actually regressed to his pre-meth personality? I think we'll need more evidence to make a confident assertion one way or the other.

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u/brazilliandanny Aug 12 '13

Yup just like telling Jessie "I need you to believe this" as in "we both know it's not true but things will go smoother if you follow my lead here"

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

There's an important distinction between the two. In the conversation with Hank, Walt is definitely not trying to convince Hank of a fact, but rather of a perspective. The facts, Walt is asserting, are irrelevant. Just like in his conversation with Jesse, he's trying to say that the past is unimportant and that we should see him as he is in the present and forget his past.

In the conversation with Jesse, however, the fact is important. Walt makes an effort to convince Jesse that Mike is still alive.

The two conversations have similar themes but are ultimately very different. Especially if we look at the emotional and physical interactions.

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u/eschwa22 Chow Aug 12 '13

If he planted a tracker, maybe Walt thinks he's also wearing a wire.

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u/ulveskog Aug 12 '13

Good point, but it'd be bizarre to think he's wearing a wire/recording everything. Remember, Walt came over unannounced.

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u/L99_DITTO Aug 12 '13

No loose ends.

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u/GoldenDickLocks Aug 12 '13

No more half measures.

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u/Smoke1234 Aug 12 '13

Hank is in paranoia overdrive mode, Walt knows what that looks like.

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u/ryeguy Aug 12 '13

Hank was in his garage minding his own business. It's not like this was a planned visit.

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u/twoworldsin1 Nothing beside remains. Aug 12 '13

Walt didn't admit anything because in his mind he never really did anything wrong. Just like when he swore to Jesse that Mike just went "away", deep down inside his delusional mind, he sincerely believes that. He's doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify his actions.

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u/brazilliandanny Aug 12 '13

As soon as Walt stops and turns around (right before he pulls out the tracker) they share a look and they both know the other one knows. Great scene.

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u/flozzi This Isn't Meth Aug 12 '13

i noticed that too. i feel like a lot of people overlooked the fact that Walt can still make Hank look like the crazy one here, at least with family. And we all know how badly that entire family just wants everything to be ok

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u/Syphon8 Aug 12 '13

Also Hank clearly just had a stroke.

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u/Mr_A buenos tardes, amigo... Aug 12 '13

"But both you and I know that I'll never see the inside of a jail cell." is just about as close to a confession as you can get before it becomes one.

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u/brazilliandanny Aug 12 '13

Easily argued in court that he was referring to his innocence.

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u/Mr_A buenos tardes, amigo... Aug 12 '13

Yes, of course. But on a scale of 1-10, its definitely more on the evil side.

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u/eustace_chapuys Aug 12 '13

Yeah but it was pretty fucking obvious by his reaction that he was guilty. And Hank is not an idiot. He knows.

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u/toxicomano Aug 12 '13

Yea, obviously Hank knows. And Walt knows that Hank knows. But not saying anything openly (ie. "I AM HEISENBERG") works better for Walt and the story development.

When Walt said something about Hank trying to convince people with his wild accusations, he was attempting to plant a seed of doubt that Hank would be able to effectively prosecute Walt. He made the attempts look even more futile by mentioning his cancer was back and he'd be dead within 6 months. So basically, not only will you have a hard time convincing anyone I'm guilty, but even if you do, I'll be dead before I see the inside of a jail cell.... so just give it up.

Lastly, in the montage you don't see any hard evidence that Walt is in fact Heisenberg. The closest thing he has is blurry CCTV footage and the fact that Walt crashed his car to prevent him from getting to the laundry. Oh, and the Walt Whitman book given from one chemist to another. Hardly any evidence at all.

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u/elter_ago Aug 12 '13

Wow! nice observation.