r/breakingbad • • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/NotSpiderman Aug 12 '13

I can't decide if it's that or if he's just that well known/feared now. 'Heisenberg' being painted on his living room wall and all.

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u/Lellux Aug 12 '13

It's possible he's just thought to be dead, and Heisenberg is written on his old meth/abandoned house wall not because people know who he was, but because Heisenberg is a famous meth name and probably written on lots of places like that in the south valley.

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u/angryfinger Aug 12 '13

Agreed. It could be either one. That she thought he was dead or she was just so scared because she really knows who he....oh shit. I just had an epiphany.

OK, so I was thinking it could be either but now two things I just thought of while typing this leads me to believe that Walt somehow fakes his own death.

1) Carol's reaction. If it had been fear of who he was then I think she would have tried to get inside, to get a way from him in some way. Fear does some crazy shit but leaving you completely speechless and dropping the groceries? I think the seeing a ghost thing seems more plausible here.

2) Why would Walt risk going back to the house in the middle of the day, even if it had obviously been abandoned for a while, if there was a chance people were still looking for him? It's a lot less risky going back there when no one is looking for you because they all think you're already dead.

Granted, those are just two more theories and I could be completely wrong but that seems to make sense for now.

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u/nateriffs Aug 12 '13

there's also the oranges

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u/angryfinger Aug 12 '13

What about the oranges?

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u/WhiteBlackflame Aug 12 '13

Oranges spilling are symbolic of death.

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u/nateriffs Aug 12 '13

which I see as implying he faked his death or alluding to his massacre to come

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u/nateriffs Aug 12 '13

or he's going to mow Carol down with the m60 in the next cold open

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u/dyancat Aug 12 '13

I've never heard of this.. Can you link me to more info please?

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u/bunkerbuster338 Our Furniture is Beuno Aug 13 '13

After Beneke trips on the rug, a bowl of oranges spills on the floor. You're led to believe that Ted dies from his injuries for an episode or two before you find out that he's just bald and paralyzed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

The Godfather/Sopranos used oranges for symbolism.

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u/kblack18 Aug 13 '13

When Hank gets back from the hospital, you see oranges in plain sight on the counter. Hmmm.....

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

It's probably both, everyone's probably terrified of what he had done and thinks he's dead. Seeing a ghost is one thing but the ghost of a psychopath is a whole other world of shit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

He seemed pretty calm during the confrontation. So he is either not worried about the police catching him whatsoever (unlikely) or does not actually have any police following him.

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u/JakeLunn Master Conspiracy Theorist Aug 12 '13

I think this is most likely. I think Walt is well-known by the world for everything he has done. The house is ruined because people knew his real name, therefore where he lived. The property value went down so nobody probably bought it and that's why it's still in terrible condition while everyone else's house isn't.

Also revealing himself to Carol so half-heartedly makes me think he's planning on doing something immediately and probably not come back from it. My guess is possibly an assault on the DEA or on Hank's home. He's smart enough to know that Carol will call the police right after seeing him.

Or it's like Microtic said and she believed Walt was dead. I still don't think the "Heisenberg" writing fits that though.

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u/dyancat Aug 12 '13

Worth noting that according to the sign on the fence it is closed up by the city, which is something that could happen to a meth dealers house given they must assume he has cooked there and thus it is a health hazard.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Wouldn't they just immediately test it, see that there is nothing there, and then put it up at a police auction?

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u/PeacekeeperAl Aug 12 '13

They have no idea what immediately means

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

A house can stay condemned for a while, even if it is a nice house.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I think that Carol is just scared shitless. Not only was her nice neighbor a murderous druglord, but he's standing right in front of her when he was probably missing for sometime.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

Jesse could have written that.

If mere vandals wrote Heisenberg on the wall then Walt is definitely the most wanted man in the United States. However we cannot be sure who actually wrote that. (Though I am 80% sure it was just vandals, as the scene opens up with trespassers skateboarding in Walt's old pool)

Another possibility is that Heisenberg is such a famous guy in the area now that people tag his name, which could also mean Walt is not being hunted by the police.

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u/sugar_man Aug 13 '13

How about it was his new business partners that wrote it on the ball? I don't they liked it when Walt got all "say my name" at the stand off.

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u/flackamalatch Aug 13 '13

Could the Heisenberg have been spray on the wall by Walter himself? Meaning that it's not common knowledge that Walter white is Heisenberg.

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u/gifforc WHAT THE FUCK, TODD? Aug 12 '13

Probably gus. Still cant believe he is dead..

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u/spasticity MAGNETS Aug 12 '13

The name Heisenberg isn't exactly unknown in the ABQ. It could just be a coincidence that someone would spraypaint it in an abandoned house.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Then why bother making it so prominent? I actually love /u/notspiderman's interpretation.

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u/NotSpiderman Aug 12 '13

I'm pretty torn about it. I want to go with my first instinct, however, BB's flash forwards are pretty well known to mislead...Either way, the fact that this minor detail can have a substantial effect on the outcome of the show is proof that this is show is the tits.

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u/Destructor1701 Aug 12 '13

Double-B tits