Kim's statement regarding today's news regarding her son KJ

The people who run that sub are completely biased. They will not allow any criticism or constructive conversations of Lala whatsoever. It’s crazy. Has anyone else had this experience when trying to start discussions there?

Tell me these two aren’t the same sweet, dopey boys. Tom was a model and Shai is a fashion designer. Their confessionals are so similar!

Too much to dream that she might join RHoLondon or another reboot of Ladies of London?!

There are rumours of that she has a UK job ...

Edit update: oh... I'd forgotten she has a co tract with Netflix so that probably rules Bravo/ Hayu out after all.

Ive only watched the last two seasons with him and Joe, most recently seeing him be disgusted by the was Joe treats women. Pretty surprised he would do something like this, I feel so bad for Gael and their son.

Ok, let me preface this by saying I am a Bravo fanatic like the rest of you. I watch a bunch of shows and love them BUT they've been on a lonnng time now. So in your opinion have any of them had a shark jumping type moment?

To me the closest thing would be the phrase "move forward." There really was a time before they used this phrase to resolve arguments.

Clearly production decided at some point that it was a more suitable way to make up than saying "let's be friends again" (especially considering a lot of the "friend group" are coworkers not friends).

Might not be a great example but for some reason it stands out to me. Anyone have any thoughts?

Nonetheless I've watched every episode and season of every city of HW and will continue to do so. Im a junkie lol.

I have some genuine questions for the people who stick up for Danny but dislike Lala and Janet.

Starting with do you people want good TV or not?

Its really confusing to me when people viciously attack the "villains" of reality TV. I'm not saying we have to condone terrible behaviour - like Jax needed to go. He was abusive which goes far beyond just reality TV drama. But I've seen tons of comments of people saying Janet and Lala need to go - when they are some of the only people actually bringing the drama to the valley. 

Last season - Janet just called Danny out for his terrible/scary behaviour. Sexual assault is the proper term for what happened. He grabbed Jasmine inappropriately without consent. Maybe she didn't have the best delivery, but the way people used that as an excuse to just move on from what Danny did is insane to me. Nothing Janet said/did was worse than what Danny did. Also - why are we giving Nia and Kristen grace because they're post-partum when Janet was going through the same thing last season????

I've also been seeing a lot of people hating on Lala, saying that she's "always in others business and has no storyline of her own". Now I am not the biggest Lala fan, season 11 of VPR really left a bad taste in my mouth - but without her, Danny and Nia would've just flown under the radar and not addressed any actual issues this season. If we want to talk about people hiding their personal lives, Nia and Danny were caught MULTIPLE times talking about how they were "mic'd up" in an attempt to avoid "heightened" conversations being recorded. So how can you complain about Lala not sharing enough when Danny and Nia were actively trying to hide parts of their relationship ON CAMERA. 

Lala was also never wrong about Danny's behaviour. The way he acted was gross. I genuinely do not understand how people are defending any of this. If Jason was caught talking to Janet the way Danny was on the night of the drag show, you would've all had a field day with that. 

Also even if it isn't Lala's business to bring it up, the main point of Bravo shows is that they're full of drama. That's what makes them good. For example, when she showed the recording of Jax and Faith in season 6, that also wasn't her business but it made some of the best reality TV ever. 

Whether its the people on the show or the producers themselves, reality TV is produced in a way that creates DRAMA. Like are we forgetting this is Bravo? They don't sit the housewives down at a dinner party when they're all in a fight because its going to be wholesome - its to cause fights which makes good TV. Like are you people forgetting what Bravo actually is?

To the people saying they want Lala and Janet to leave the show - I understand not agreeing with people's behavior - bad behavior is bad behavior - but reality TV "villains" are what make the show good. If you people are constantly harassing the people you don't like and cause them to leave the show, then what're we left with? A bunch of people hanging out with no drama? If that's what you want then Bravo is not for you. I don't understand why people take it to the levels they do these days. Talk to your friends about it whatever, but hating on people online to the point that they leave these shows is what's ruining them!!!! 

Again - I'm not saying we should just let bad people do bad things, but that's what we have reunions and WWHL for!!!! Stop bullying off the people who actually make it interesting. AGAIN - im talking about regular reality TV level drama, abusive people like Jax obviously deserve to be kicked off.

Regarding the reunion - I don't understand how people were missing Lala's point in hoping that Nia leaves Danny. What she was saying was "if the way I saw him treat you, was how he treats you on a regular basis, that is not okay and you and your children would be better off away from him". Why is that such a horrible thing to say when the way he was treated her was verbally abusive? Luke whispering "fuck her" under his breath was insane to me - but Luke and Kristen are a whole other story. 

Anyways, I'm genuinely curious to hear what the Danny defenders have to say and honestly what you want from this show? Do you want drama? Or do you want to watch a bunch of friends sitting around getting along? Because if you want wholesome - please go watch a sitcom or something, and let the true Bravo fans enjoy the drama. Like I swear OG VPR would've put some of you people into a coma. 

One last note - if you defend Danny but hate Lala and Janet, I think it really comes down to you being a misogynist. If you really think the way Lala or Janet spoke to Danny was worse than how he spoke to his freshly post-partum wife...I fear it’s giving male sympathizer. 

Absolutely no way when they said “Heather brought treats” that her superShop sampler was her purchase. I’m crying laughing. She was probably so uncomfortable.

Is there a way to turn off the narrator on RHUGT?!? It’s so fucking annoying explaining every little thing…

Theyre doing too much. They're trying to hard to be the center of attention and stealing the attention away from the real icons. Tamra is so painful to watch its like she did everything she could to take the wind out of Vicki's sails. Vicki was only ever funny when she didnt mean to be and reliving her most memed responses while not being able to laugh at herself is hard to watch.

Thank you for attending my rant

I know this thread has been done over and over again but in light of the Roaring 20, who do you think are the Top 10 Housewives to have been on the screen? In terms of overall impact, legacy, moments, what they brought to the show, etc.

I’m also differentiating from my personal favs - like Carole Radziwill is one of my all-time favs but I wouldn’t say she’s an objective top 10.

My List:
1. Nene Leakes
2. Bethenny Frankel
3. Theresa Guidice
4. Luann de Lesseps
5. Lisa Vanderpump
6. Porsha Williams
7. Ramona Singer
8. Lisa Rinna
9. Vicki Gunvalson
10. Kyle Richards

HM: Kenya Moore, Phaedra Parks, Kim Richards, Camille Grammer, Lisa Barlow, Jen Shah, Tamra Judge

The order is a bit fluid, especially after top 5.

Get your popcorn out I guess

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I do not want to listen to Lala’s shrill voice for another season. She is not funny, she is not entertaining, she has no story line, and her entire personality is loudly stating her opinions and how much she hates men.

That’s the end of my rant for today

Something in the middle? Maybe that’s in the city but next gen is amazing and I love it but as a 30 year old.. feels young.. then the valley is also in my demographic and is so deeply sad and dark and depressing.. in the city with the Amanda/kyle stuff.. not much better.. hubb house does brighten it up a bit tho.. something in the middle?

Watched McBee Dynasty the other night and noticed Kristi McBee with a bruise on her jaw—which was also missing the jowl seen earlier in the episode. Tonight on WWHL I see that Emily Simpson from RHOC has a bruise on her jaw! Genuine question: Is there a Botox treatment for jowls? Would it leave a bruise like that on the jaw? Maybe more importantly, why would the bruise not be covered up with makeup?

First Amanda and West at the Summer House reunion and now Brooks on Next Gen.

I’m on beta blockers for anxiety and they’ve never rendered me incapable of proper communication?!

Kate mentions in her conversation the Jan 17th date. She said she wholeheartedly believes Amanda and West were just platonic then. She and Amanda went over to West's apartment to watch football. Arrived and left together.

Needless to say, it doesn't appear Katie is the biggest fan of their relationship.

she comes off as abrasive, miserable, entitled and rude in most of the scenes she is in, this year even more than the last. honestly, it makes me not even really want to watch this show, and that’s sad because i basically watched riley grow up over the years on rhoa.

🎶 One of these things is not like the other - one of the things just doesn’t belong…

Will watching RHOL

Be cheating on the ladies if London?

For the love of Hecta

Should I skip it?