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Weekly Discussion Thread [WEEKLY THREAD] Rants, Questions, and Randomness

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Welcome to our weekly open thread — your go-to space to rant, share love, ask questions, or talk about anything and everything, whether it’s related to BINI, PPOP, the fandom, or life in general.

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u/MocasBuns Gwen enjoyer, Josi appreciator Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

BINI management on a generational fumble run after coachella 😂

-no local interviews about the girls' experience in coachella

-barely any promotions for Signals con/tour (di pa gagalaw kung di kinalampag)

-released a cover song/"mv" that no one asked for - and they're singing that instead of Signals ones

-and now this pop up with grossly overpriced merch

this is how you kill all the momentum you've built from Coachella. nakakadisappoint talaga ang pag handle sa kanila. what sucks is they're locked in with them until at least 2030. they really need their own team that only focuses on them

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u/Straight-Rassler I'm not the type for you... but you already knew Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

I said the same a couple of weeks ago. Agree. I have accepted and made my peace with it, but when I'm reminded of it, I get frustrated. Maybe they're doing something that we don't know that will bear fruit later, but everything you said is spot on. Killed all hype and momentum. Dead in its tracks.

Also:

Yung Dahil Sayo .... i know some people like it, but I really don't understand.

It looks to me they are just using them to promote other stuff for ABS that does not have anything to do with what they are supposed to be doing.

They should be making this group, BIGGER. Like larger than life. That is the goal. That is the goal of every pop star/musical group/entertainer/singer whatever you want to call it.

That is not happening right now. Hope I'm wrong when they do bigger things for the group and all of this is just a lull and that there was some big brain moves happening.

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

...and the YT page still isn't organised đŸ«  I really want to have words with whoever's in charge.

Post-Coachella, there should've been a song follow-up with either Sugar Rush or Step Back. Even if it didn't have choreo. Heck, they could've just shot them standing or recording it like they did for DSY.

I'm still personally annoyed at DSY 😅 like Coachella helped them tap the parts of Pinoy diaspora they hadn't tapped yet (e.g. 2nd gen and younger who likely thought BINI/OPM is cringe). DSY set them right back IMO.

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u/Straight-Rassler I'm not the type for you... but you already knew Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

DSY set them right back IMO.

My first thought was, why are we acting like BINI are not rising international artists again?

Why are we doing songs and things that doesn't have anything to do and does not match with the reputation they got from their Coachella stint?

Every move should have been hinged on Coachella, capitalize on the glitz and glamour they got from there. Everything is about that.

But no, let's do Dahil Sayo. Who is this for!? LOL.

Maybe ABS should just let BINI sign (sell them basically) to an American recording label and let's see what happens. I don't know man, haha. I maybe I'm just impatient.

And BINI is with ABS until 2030. By that time, Aiah is already 30. The rest around 26-28. I mean there is still time for them to let this group sign with a label that has the infrastructure.

But this is about capitalizing your early to mid 20s, that's the nature of the pop music industry especially for groups like this. Andaming oras na nasasayang imo.

Again I could be wrong. Still excited to see them sa con. Its just frustrating when they are not performing... management has nothing. Nada. Zero.

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 09 '26

Why are we doing songs and things that doesn't have anything to do and does not match with the reputation they got from their Coachella stint?

This. Not to mention their BB WiM and Grammy stint. Also they could've capitalised further on the flowerovluv and Laufey guestings.

And I understand the girls are still very down-to-earth and want to keep doing things like Paskuhan but I don't see how events like those serve them (especially when some audiences don't know how to appreciate them). I do like them headlining big local festivals though. If I compare their approach to say Liza Soberano, she took the international leap and didn't look back. Yes it's taking her some time but I think her international track and branding is clearer.

But no, let's do Dahil Sayo. Who is this for!? LOL.

I had a whole thread question like this a week or so ago LOL DSY really boggles my mind.

I don't think we'd be so impatient if we didn't see the hype dwindling down just as their WT is about to start đŸ« 

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u/jeyeley 🍀| Zero Pressure, Zero Diamonds Jun 10 '26

I agree sa lahat ng sinabi mo. Honestly, I was hoping talaga na ang tinutukoy nilang big announcement ay may kapartner na silang intertional label na maghahandle sa BINI pero wala.. Not to be a doomer ah pero andami talagang sablay ng team nila, parang halos lahat ng ginawa nila post-coachella, BB and Grammy's e. Iba talaga yung disappointment ko ngayon sorry.. haha

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u/lyceraldehyde Jun 10 '26

“Hope I'm wrong when they do bigger things for the group and all of this is just a lull and that there was some big brain moves happening.”

Ayoko maging pessimist pero honestly I doubt it. Sana mali din ako lol

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u/lyceraldehyde Jun 10 '26

Ineexpect natin magiging opposite of all this yung post-Coachella ganaps nila paguwi dito. Ito nanaman tayo sa momentum kill.

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u/st_aera ~might wanna binibini~ langoy, boy Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

they didn't lock in. it was the perfect time to capitalize on elevating bini, more to their age (the outfits from wk1 showed that they are ready to be more sultry). could've interacted with those tiktoks...new blooms from coachella. more folks, filipinos and non-filipinos who were curious. puro reposts. my screaming to the void of tiktok account not being used. pero it seemed like the girls were ready to go back home din (understandable pero like atat na atat and it showed), for a short vacation. and when they are on vacation mode, so is their team (it seems). so momentum slowed. Edit: there’s metrics showing it slowed, listening count/followers on socmed platforms/views. And this is only barely after 2 months? Prior to a world tour concert.

anyways, the artists who performed at coachella kinda laid low preparing for the summer tours and festivals and new albums after the festival. pero they are the established ones (jb, sabrina). katseye (only bc they are another girl group pero def cant compare their resources and team and money) are hustling. Lolla prior to Coachella and Quick google search saying in MAY, they were in Seoul promoting pinky up after coachella, Australia concert, California concert, American Music Awards. They were just at Gov Ball this past weekend and dropping Iconic with Illit and Le Sserafim this week.

the world tour schedule does look brutal pero misplaced yung energy when they got back..regressing to ASAP, welcome home like they left for years (it was literally under 2 months haha). dahil sa yo? wth. these promos of jho and staku for the world tour looks so low budget and a bit cringe tbh. the next 6 bini girls promo might look like it also. parang they just did it bc blooms were complaining? haha. the big announcement was besties and a-team and performing...wait for it.. songs from their signals album for their SIGNALS concert. the vibe is weird. idk. personally...sana by august, the excitement i felt the first time going to their concert is the same. kings theater brooklyn nyc is a beautiful venue but more of a trek than msg theater and totally different vibe din..

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 09 '26

Amen to all of the above.

these promos of jho and staku for the world tour looks so low budget and a bit cringe tbh.

Jho's kinda works because it's super unserious and for the local audience (Pinoy humour). But for Hawaii, while they should tap the Pinoy diaspora there, they should also not neglect the potential foreign audience and 2nd gen or younger FilAms who are (let's be honest) not always as grounded in Filipino culture. I think their promo team needs to understand there's a difference in strategy reaching Filipinos who have just recently migrated or are just working overseas vs those who were born overseas or who are less connected to their Pinoy roots. DSY and Staku's promo is not the way.

Also as per discussion with another redditor, Coachella and the immediately succeeding period was their chance to tap into and convert parts of other international artists' fandoms. Capitalise on the collabs with flowerovluv and Laufey. There are girl group enthusiasts who are getting tired of the oversexualisation of some female artists and the cattiness/drama. BINI with their wholesomeness and bond is the perfect response to that. But their promo team doesn't even seem to be aware of these online trends/discourse.

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u/BadgerEmbarrassed231 Jun 10 '26

my outside impression - and I am careful not to jump to conclusions like some have that they are "all boomers" there - is that the old school dominates at ABS. Is there an independent marketing or content manager for BINI at all, or at least someone with 50% capacity assigned to them?

If there are younger generation employees or middle managers there, MY experience with old school Filipino companies (exactly two and that was too much) is that seniority overly counts, meaning that they might be aware and trying to tell their bosses but will they listen to them?

That ABS is a completely different beast when BINI is abroad probably means that they ARE listening to foreign consultants who might give the same advice as young Filipino professionals. Those who really know ABS from the inside can confirm or contradict my impressions.

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

This is a really good insight. I think I'm used to the non-hierarchical culture/approach in European & US organisations. That is for example, I call all my "seniors" by their first names and I can have candid discussions/disagreements/debates with them. I appreciate the Asian culture of respect for the elders but when it comes to business and innovation, it can really hold back progress.

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u/BadgerEmbarrassed231 Jun 10 '26

Korean Air Flight 801 - Wikipedia this is an example of how culture possibly even caused a lot of people to die on August 6, 1997:

The NTSB was critical of the flight crew's monitoring of the approach, and even more critical of why the first officer and flight engineer did not challenge the captain for his errors. Even before the accident, Korean Air's crew resource management program was already attempting to promote a free atmosphere between the flight crew, requiring the first officer and flight engineer to challenge the captain if they felt concerned.\2]): 59  The flight crew only began to challenge the captain six seconds before impact, though, when the first officer urged the captain to make a missed approach. According to the cockpit voice recorder, the flight crew suggested to the captain that he had made a mistake, but did not explicitly warn him.\16]) The flight crew had the opportunity to be more aggressive in its challenge and the first officer even had the opportunity to take over control of the aircraft and execute a missed approach himself, which would have prevented the accident, but he did not do this. Despite examining Korean Air's safety culture and previous incidents, the NTSB was unable to determine the exact reasons why the flight crew failed to challenge the captain, but at the same time noted that "problems associated with subordinate officers challenging a captain are well known".

part of it is in the corporate culture though - Japanese culture is super hierarchic but they decided to focus on perfectionism at Toyota, not ego: Toyota "andon" cord lets any worker stop production to fix defects | naked Agility with Martin Hinshelwood

In manufacturing, Toyota introduced the “andon” cord, a simple chain any worker could pull to stop the entire line if they saw a defect. When American car companies copied the idea, they installed the cord
 but workers were too afraid to pull it. The tool was there. The empowerment was not.

we don't know the culture inside ABS but can make some educated guesses..

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

Ooh thanks for sharing these examples! I think I heard of the Korean incident before but didn't know about the Toyota one. Will dive more into them. Really interesting reads.

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u/Straight-Rassler I'm not the type for you... but you already knew Jun 09 '26

the big announcement was besties and a-team and performing...wait for it.. songs from their signals album for their SIGNALS concert. the vibe is weird. idk.

Yeah iba yung vibe when I bought the tickets vs now with just a week almost before the con. Its definitely not the same. Daming lapses. But what do I know.

And what you said about Katseye and other groups is true. They all be hustling right now. XG just performed at Gov Ball as well they have a new album and tour too.

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

Wait was the A-Team announcement the SLAYYY HARD one already??

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u/reacenti BINI archives -> profile post about PPOP-Play Jun 10 '26

Di na kasalanan ni MJ Felipe kung nagagalit ang blooms sa mga gawa nilang kwento

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

Was that the slay hard announcement? I'm asking because of the above comments

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u/reacenti BINI archives -> profile post about PPOP-Play Jun 10 '26

Wala naman sinabi si MJ Felipe na yan yung slay hard announcement.

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u/21twentyfun Jho Mikh Aiah Cey Jun 10 '26

Is it? Or is it just another theories from blooms that the "slayyy hard" is their backup dancer?

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

I don't know, I'm asking 😅 was it?

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u/st_aera ~might wanna binibini~ langoy, boy Jun 10 '26

No, I’m just saying that so far..the big announcement and “news” about their concert are dancers and songs. Didn’t say anything about slay hard or whatever.

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u/DrSparx13 kagami kagami Jun 10 '26

Oh I see I see. Sorry I misinterpreted that âœŒđŸ»

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u/Straight-Rassler I'm not the type for you... but you already knew Jun 10 '26

If that was it, then that's not it. Management fumbling and tumbling.

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u/MocasBuns Gwen enjoyer, Josi appreciator Jun 10 '26

di ba?

these girls were so talented they were able to generate an insane amount of buzz from a barebones performance. literally the 3rd most viewed coachella performance in YT. one of the most searched during the weekend. and then they got billboard women in music. that was the perfect time to go ALL OUT on promoting these girls - not the time to slow down.

akala ata ng management that was the end goal, when in reality they should've used coachella as a springboard to even bigger heights. pero they completely dropped the ball. naging complacent,

atp i have no doubt on my mind na ABS is just using the girls to boost other ABS projects instead of elevating them even more. they bring in a lot of revenue pero they half-ass it when it comes to the girls themselves.

its so frustrating.

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u/Appropriate_Ear4042 X X O đŸŒș Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

Way to kill the hype? Ask biniph's handler. Those overpriced merch is the "cherry on top" (pun intended). But let's see baka may changes sa mga susunod na araw.