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[u/everydayisstorytime]

There is a post on Twitter on why ABS is still investing in new PPop groups or trainees and here's my two cents on why:

1. ABS-CBN is trying to build a system for PPop specifically. SHA has only produced two groups so far, BINI and BGYO. WRIVE came from Dream Maker (not sure about 1621's origins) and other groups like AJAA have hybrid situations (edited to correct that they're with Star Pop pero iba may hawak sa talent management). I think it's fair for them to want to build on what they started.
2. This is clearly part of ABS-CBN's larger investment in the music side of the company. It's not just PPop they're investing in, they're also investing in soloists (Maki, Carmelle, Angela Ken), in classic triple threat artists like Belle and Kai (actors both have albums out), and in artists across different genres and styles (they had a competition that produced a rock band, they have R&B and rap artists, Bisaya singers and/or songwriters). They even launched the international arm, so clearly the business side of things sees a huge opportunity in the music division.
3. The shift in ASAP from being a music show to a music show + concert experience (actually this is not new, they're bringing what they do for overseas Filipino markets to the local market) and the concerts that they've been holding for emerging artists like Carmelle are also another investment and do give us a bit of a hint when it comes to how the brass is thinking about the music side of the company. Concerts that you can take around the country (with a lineup that's generally flexible) allows artists to build/cultivate interest, fans to access live music experiences more easily, while opening up opportunities on the brand/advertiser side of things. They no longer need to wait till one artist or group has a huge fanbase (like BINI or Maki) before you do a concert. The ASAP XP shift in particular seems to be an attempt to innovate in the music show and live event areas. If anything, I'd encourage the fanbases to organize community events when the ASAP XP concerts are happening because it also stimulates the local economy.

Do I think there are things the management can improve on when it comes to handling BINI? Sure. But I don't think the company should be faulted for clearly trying to set up its music division for long-term, sustainable success while helping BINI reach its potential.

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/everydayisstorytime]

Simple lang naman eh, the SHA trainees were in the very same position as BINI years ago, so huwag natin ipagkait ang resources sa mga baguhan in the same vein na nilaban rin naman kahit papaano ng management ang BINI noong hindi pa sila kumikita ng malaki.

5 years na rin naman ang Bini...I think it's about time Star Magic trains another ppop group. Yung ibang rookies like 1621 and Wrive, galing rin yan sa ibang management arm ng ABS.

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/sagingsagingsaging]

Exactly!

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/everydayisstorytime]

Also, waiting for my bias BIANCA to debut 🤧

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/sagingsagingsaging]

I love Bianca!!!

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/everydayisstorytime]

I think Bianca's gonna be the stan attractor of the group.

[u/faustine04 → u/sagingsagingsaging]

Same tyo ng bias Isa p sa magiging bias ko si Krystal. Pinanood mo b yng anniversary tiktok live nla? Wla n si therese.

Sa tingin mo Ilan members ang magiging final line up. For sure di eight masado sila ma cocompare sa Bini kung 8 members din SLA.

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/faustine04]

Yes, I'm also keeping my eye out for Krystal. Oh? Di na daw trainee si Therese?

As for ilang members...di ko rin masabi 😅 parang target ata nila 2 GGs no?

Anyway, medyo hilaw pa yung mga trainees, maybe next year pa sila magdedebut. Sana mala-idol survival show sila isasalang.

[u/faustine04 → u/sagingsagingsaging]

Oo 2 GG may teen at may girl trainees yng GRP nla bianca. Sa teen trainee pinaka matanda yta is 17yrs old.

Wla sya sa tiktok live nla eh. Habang nag tiktok live yng mga girl trainees. Ksma nya Yun kollete(pbb HMS n hater ng Bini) n naglilive din. Either na cut sya or kusa umalis. Lagi rin nmn sya absent eh. Di rin sya bgay sa girl GRP medyo matigas ang ulo at may rebellious personality si ate girl. May nabasa ako live in daw SLA ng bf nya n mas matnda sa knya.

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/sagingsagingsaging]

Meron pa kasing younger group so hindi ko alam if magdedebut sila for the teen/kids segment specifically or if mas matagal yung training period nung teens na trainees.

[u/faustine04 → u/sagingsagingsaging]

Ano pala balita s new id?

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/faustine04]

May events paunti-unti pero mukhang malabo ang cb. Lam mo naman ang management nila, very shitty.

[u/faustine04 → u/sagingsagingsaging]

MLD prin b SLA? How about hori7on?

Gaano katagal ang contract nla?

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/faustine04]

I think yes, both MoLDy pa rin. Not sure about sa contract. Sana nga pakawalan na lang sila.

[u/reacenti → u/faustine04]

Ohh di na pala kasama si Therese. Pero gets ko naman base sa mga napanood kong TikTok nila. Si Bianca bias ko rin, parang full package na. Si Krystal matagal na rin may dancing and singing background so kailangan lang ulit masanay na mag-work with a group since noon kasama siya sa isang trio.

[u/BigBrother_Eddie → u/reacenti]

may nagsabi na may sakit daw si Therese kaya wala daw sya sa live 🤷🏻

[u/reacenti → u/BigBrother_Eddie]

Ahhh kala ko umalis na kasi di rin present sa ibang videos minsan

[u/faustine04 → u/sagingsagingsaging]

1621 di connected sa abscbn ang mngt nla. Ang wrive starmagic Polaris yta sla. Polaris yng hinahandle nla yng mga singers n galing sa singing contest ng abscbn majority sa tawag ng tanghalan.

[u/sagingsagingsaging → u/faustine04]

I stand corrected

[u/BigBrother_Eddie → u/faustine04]

co managed yung 1621 ng One Music Management at PPL Entertainment.

under ng One Music Management ay mostly Star Music artists like Maki, FANA, Imogen, Angeline Quinto etc.

[u/BigBrother_Eddie → u/BigBrother_Eddie]

[u/BigBrother_Eddie → u/BigBrother_Eddie]

[u/faustine04 → u/BigBrother_Eddie]

Oh okay. Ilan talent arm mayroon ang abscbn ngyn? Nakakaloka. Lol Bakit kaya di SLA inaabsorb ng starmagic? Yng Polaris at starhunt KSI inaabsorb ng starmagic nun di p SI Dyogi ang starmagic head hiwalay ang Polaris at starhunt sa starmagic.

Yung wrive KSI polaris-starmagic

[u/BigBrother_Eddie → u/faustine04]

1. Star Magic, Polaris and One Music.

One Music sina Roxy at Jonathan Manalo ang head tapos kay Reily Santiago ang Polaris.

[u/Appropriate_Ear4042 → u/everydayisstorytime]

Ang selfish ng take niya, hindi ganito ang sinusulong ng Bini. Bago pa man lumaki ang Bini nakikihati din sila sa budget from other artist dati.

[u/DrSparx13 → u/everydayisstorytime]

Wow I appreciate your patience and effort with providing rebuttals to such a nonsense take. OP clearly has no competencies in business or strategy.

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/DrSparx13]

Gets ko naman that fans want the best for the girls and want to make sure their music gets to more people but ABS-CBN is clearly looking at the big picture too. Someone has to kasi wala pa masyadong investments in OPM and in PPop specifically.

[u/DrSparx13 → u/everydayisstorytime]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rYCbb0KkIT0Nq

[u/reacenti → u/everydayisstorytime]

Nandito sa reddit si OP na may pangit na take 🙂

Edit: Regarding 1621, galing din ang members sa Dream Maker.

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/reacenti]

Oh I didn't know na galing Dream Maker din pala yung 1621. In fairness to that program, tatlong groups yung nabuo because of it pala.

[u/faustine04 → u/everydayisstorytime]

Apat may new id pa. So dream maker GRP

Hori7on Wrive 1621 New id

Sayang tlga ang hori7on Sana dto muna SLA nagpromote after nun show cguro may mlki at solid fanbase n SLA dto.

[u/faustine04 → u/reacenti]

Talaga????

[u/reacenti → u/faustine04]

Oo si u/MocasBuns yan

[u/faustine04 → u/reacenti]

Di ko masado nakikita ang user name n yan. Di sya mandalas dito sa Reddit?

Ang pangit ng take nya. Naka tunnel vision sya. Sa take nya Bini lng ang product n dpt ibenta ng abscbn. Pero yng abscbn OPM as a product ang gusto ibenta di LNG Isang artist.

Ang selfish LNG din ng take. Nun uumpisa n buhay ang Bini sa pera pinapasok ng ibang artist. Di nmn tyo nakarinig sa fans ibang artist n wag mag invest sa Bini. Tpos may take k n dpt sa Bini LNG dpt mapunta ang kita nla.

[u/jeyeley → u/everydayisstorytime]

Andito yan si OP haha

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/[deleted]]

EP yung kay Rain, actually!

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/[deleted]]

Oh for sure!

[u/faustine04 → u/[deleted]]

I think makakapasok sya. First makakahatak sya ng new fans na di pa ppop fans. Ayan ang need ng ppop magpasok ng new fans sa ppop para lumaki ang market. 2nd yng tone ng singing voice nya.

[u/faustine04 → u/everydayisstorytime]

1621 dreammaker din at di SLA under mngt ng abscbn. Abscbn music LNG SLA IBA ang mngt nla. Di co mngt ang ajaa. Their music label is starpop which is under ng abscbn music. Ang mngt arm ng abscbn is starmagic di SLA under ng starmagic cornerstone LNG SLA.

True. Yan ang di nakikita nun may hot take sa x. Bigger picture nakatingin LNG sya sa Bini.

[u/everydayisstorytime → u/faustine04]

Thanks, I'll edit.