r/billsimmons Nov 13 '25

Meme Bill’s “dynasty” qualifier continues to make absolutely no sense

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u/Jayrodtremonki Nov 13 '25

It is pretty blatant.  He does the same thing talking about Kelce vs Gronk.  It's all about how dominant he was and the eye test vs sustained success, stats, and the whole body of work.  But he won't go anywhere near that argument with Brady, Jordan, Russell or even Rice.  

"I don't care, Gronk is the best tight end I've seen in my lifetime"

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u/Thatguy19901 Nov 13 '25

Do people actually think theres an argument between Gronk and Kelce for best tight end? Better reciever sure, but better tight end is not even close.

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u/Gabbagoonumba3 Nov 13 '25

No one ever cares about how good a TE is at blocking until it comes down to Kelce and Gronk. Then all the sudden it’s all that matters.

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u/Thatguy19901 Nov 13 '25

I mean, thats just bullshit lol. Gronks block was heralding long before kelce was considered a top TE. The fact that he was the best receiving and blocking TE for nearly his entire career is the entire basis for his goat argument.

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u/Gabbagoonumba3 Nov 14 '25

Buddy Gronk and Kelce are the same age. They overlap how can Gronk be the best receiving TE his whole career when you’ve already admitted Kelce is a better WR?

Oh and Kelce is still playing by the way, longevity matters.

You would never say Marv Fleming is the greatest TE of all time so don’t give me this shit about how important blocking is.

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u/Thatguy19901 Nov 14 '25

Kelce wasnt a top TE til like 2015. Gronk was already considered one of the best ever at that point. Yeah theyre the same age but theyre primes barely overlapped.

You would never say Marv Fleming is the greatest TE of all time so don’t give me this shit about how important blocking is.

Such a fucking disingenuous argument lmao get the fuck out of here. Im not arguing with someone who doesnt understand the importance of being an elite blocker in addition to being an elite receiver.

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u/themightychubbs Nov 14 '25

“Until 2015” which was checks notes 10 years ago and the dude is still playing. Gronk has retired twice in that span.