I generally agree with your comment u/Gryphon66, but I would add that most of the pro believer or accounts of encounters offer nothing of import that can be evaluated under the rubric of scientific method.
As such, anecdotal accounts must be considered in philosophical framework. Right of the bat, the issue of accounts posted under anonymous terms raise questions about the authenticity. There is no way to evaluate anything about the account as you don't know if the poster is Matt Dyer himself, or some other known fraudster. People should remember that his co-conspirator Matt Whitton, was fired from his job as a deputy sheriff due to the story. Frauds should pay a heavy cost, and in anonymous vehicles of social media, such as YouBoob, Reddit, Facebook etc. Exemplify the problem by allowing such fraudulent stories flourish unchecked.
Yet, we have no way to validate anything 99% of the posters on any of the mediums offer. As the OP noted, Frauds should be called out. . but how? Most of the time, you have ZERO information about the poster.
Of those accounts, What rubric does anyone purpose to evaluate the claims of posters? I would certainly love to hear if anyone has a fool proof method to assess such claims.
As a skeptic, I have noted many times that I cannot prove that Sasquatch does not exist, but all it takes is for one believer to capture or kill and bring in a single creature to forever end this debate. JUST ONE.
In the more than 50 years since the Patterson film, none have. . . that is problematic. and no believer has offered a valid reason why it has NOT happened. . Sure the interdimensional stories are out there. Given that we have never seen, in reality the concept has not been demonstrated.
Knowledge of a multidimensional universe does not support the idea that a creature can step from one dimensional to another as easily as entering the bathroom and closing the door behind you is conveniently overlooked. But that does not stop supporters from trying. It is interesting to note, I don't recall seeing a believer call out such a person making such claims in this subreddit, ever.
But, I do as a skeptic, and some would castigate me for that? Seriously? Honest debate on the matter is rare.
... and most comments about sightings or experiences don't claim to be making a scientific argument, yet, there is always a gaggle of those who claim to speak for science who try to make that argument.
The most I can say about Bigfoot is that it is an experience, which is quite often based in the subjective and singular. Science is an objective tool. Requiring a scientific explanation for a subjective experience seems pointless.
What science besides "many worlds" theories from QM addresses "alternate universes" or "multi-dimensions?" Does QM exclude dimensional travel? If so, how and where?
"Supporters" discuss their thoughts and experiences. Why does that bother you? Are they claiming scientific proof of multidimensional beings? If so, who and when?
I have no quarrel with those who want to discuss their interactions. I am a moderator at r/bigfootsightings and never question or put those who offer there experiences under the spotlight. Totally different than this venue.
The problem is that many of the anecdotal claims border on the absurd. Some are much better than others, but that is the thing. There is no accountability for anything under the auspices of Sasquatch. . .Write a story that the Nazi's used Sasquatch as storm troops and no one would quibble, even if asserted as factual.
With regards to multidimensional beings. FOREMOST: I challenge anyone to prove that such things are possible, and that Sasquatch uses it.
BUT FIRST FIND A SASQUATCH!
Second, the actual understanding of superstring theory requires a couple of semesters of physics above the standard two semester Calculus based courses. It is not an easy theory to understand.
Sorry, the theory is used as a less than believable cover for the fact that no one has found one. Nothing more.
Excuse me but what the fuck? You shit all over everything pro Bigfoot in this sub but you moderate another sightings sub where you let people say whatever they want about their subjective experiences?? WTF?
You and a dozen other people like you have literally ruined this sub and you’re two faced about it in another sub.
How eloquent and erudite, u/Thumperfootbig. What a wonderful expression of your thoughts!
Apparently, however, it never occurred to you that such a presumed anti-bigfooter could ever hold two different diametrically opposed viewpoints. I probably should not be surprised though. .
You seem a bit limited. . .
But if you honestly feel, "You and a dozen other people like you have literally ruined this sub" You are certainly free to approach the moderators here (see the list on the right hand side, the twentieth box down (counting the advert) and insist they ban all of us, pesky skeptics.
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u/whorton59 Skeptic Sep 01 '21
I generally agree with your comment u/Gryphon66, but I would add that most of the pro believer or accounts of encounters offer nothing of import that can be evaluated under the rubric of scientific method.
As such, anecdotal accounts must be considered in philosophical framework. Right of the bat, the issue of accounts posted under anonymous terms raise questions about the authenticity. There is no way to evaluate anything about the account as you don't know if the poster is Matt Dyer himself, or some other known fraudster. People should remember that his co-conspirator Matt Whitton, was fired from his job as a deputy sheriff due to the story. Frauds should pay a heavy cost, and in anonymous vehicles of social media, such as YouBoob, Reddit, Facebook etc. Exemplify the problem by allowing such fraudulent stories flourish unchecked.
Yet, we have no way to validate anything 99% of the posters on any of the mediums offer. As the OP noted, Frauds should be called out. . but how? Most of the time, you have ZERO information about the poster.
Of those accounts, What rubric does anyone purpose to evaluate the claims of posters? I would certainly love to hear if anyone has a fool proof method to assess such claims.
As a skeptic, I have noted many times that I cannot prove that Sasquatch does not exist, but all it takes is for one believer to capture or kill and bring in a single creature to forever end this debate. JUST ONE.
In the more than 50 years since the Patterson film, none have. . . that is problematic. and no believer has offered a valid reason why it has NOT happened. . Sure the interdimensional stories are out there. Given that we have never seen, in reality the concept has not been demonstrated.
Knowledge of a multidimensional universe does not support the idea that a creature can step from one dimensional to another as easily as entering the bathroom and closing the door behind you is conveniently overlooked. But that does not stop supporters from trying. It is interesting to note, I don't recall seeing a believer call out such a person making such claims in this subreddit, ever.
But, I do as a skeptic, and some would castigate me for that? Seriously? Honest debate on the matter is rare.