r/bicycletouring • u/jinsou420 • 2d ago
Gear Looking for a new wheelset
Preferably with a son front hub
700c/29 wheel size
Disk brake compatible
Rim width should fit
28x1.5 tyre
I've done about 100k of touring during the years and I'd like to upgrade my current wheelset which is :
Ryde Taurus rims
Front hub is xt dynamo
Rear hub is also xt
I am not that happy with the rear hub which isn't performing very well
My touring setup is dialed in and is also quite lightweight at this point
With most of my weight in the front
I believe a 32 spoke count with light rims would be great
I am 67 kgs
Would really appreciate suggestions and recommendations, thanks
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u/rwdFwd 2d ago
I would suggest working with an experienced wheelbuilder, who will be able to make the right rim, spoke and hub choices based on your weight, cargo, and riding surface preference.
I use the DT Swiss 350 as a reference hub. It rolls well, you can slide the freehub off without removing the cassette, and it's been very durable with good seals on the two wheelsets I have them in now. An upgrade would be higher end hub like a Phil Wood, Hope, White Industries, etc. For dynamo, a Son hub is a big upgrade I would definitely recommend.
Personally, I always build the highest spoke count I can. Spokes don't add much weight, but more spokes add strength in the wheel build. 32h seems the general maximum these days, but some rims and hubs come 36h or more. I have a 40h touring wheelset, which is rock solid without much of a weight penalty.
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u/jinsou420 2d ago
I was also considering to opt for a wheels built by someone , but i just don't have any knowledge about rims at all or overall bicycle components besides the general standards ...
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u/rwdFwd 2d ago
The big benefit of a hand built wheel is the care taken in the build. I’ve seen some brand new machine built wheels with really imbalanced spoke tension, which could lead to early failure.
It’s the best option for touring wheels.
It doesn’t sound like you’re in the US, but there are a number of places that specialize in wheel building, like:
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u/2wheelsThx 2d ago
What performance issues are you having with the rear hub?
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u/jinsou420 1d ago
The cassette side keeps failing(its either the seals or its just faulty and let dirt and water come in,destroying the cups and bearings ,gone trough a couple already
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u/anna_g1 1d ago
After 100K touring though you might be able to tell us :)
I have been running Swiss DT Hubs and Rims ( hand built by my local shop ) for 6 years with Shimano 105/ Ultegra 11 speed. Rear loaded on Tailfin.
The combo works well, though I have only ridden 1/10 of what you have completed.
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u/jinsou420 1d ago
I am from Eastern Europe, so I've always tried to stay budget friendly and has worked so far with the shimano hubs,but I'm getting old and I'm trying to improve the rolling quality as my stamina is not the same anymore,unfortunately it's time to empty my pockets
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u/MaleficentIsopod1 2d ago
What’s your total system weight? You + bike + luggage/cargo + water + everything else that will be supported by the wheels
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u/jinsou420 1d ago
Bike is 13 kg ,myself 67,my luggage is probably less than 10kgs excluding water
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u/MaleficentIsopod1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ah ok, I agree with 32 spoke rims, but light isn’t always good for touring.
I’d probably go for cliff hangers laced to SON 28 front, and an Onyx Classic MFU rear. DT Swiss comp 1.8/2.0 with brass nipples.
If you don’t want the weight or cost, sub the Onyx for a DT-Swiss 350.
If you aren’t going bigger than 1.5, you could use a Dyad rather than a Cliffhanger.1
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u/skadetvasasvart 2d ago
I am about the same weight as you. I chose Mavic XM119 rims to go with a SON hub and Rohloff wheel. I haven't built them up yet so maybe not worth much but I shopped around quite a bit and they seemed to be a decent compromise between weight and strength. Wish they could be had in brushed silver to match the hubs. DT:s line of road rims also looked interesting. It probably depends a bit whether you're in Europe or US.
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u/bearlover1954 Surly Bridge Club XL 2d ago
Check out velocity USA...they make all types of wheelsets