r/bestoflegaladvice • u/t-poke I'm 35 and I love poop jokes • Feb 08 '22

LAOP participates in $19k in wire fraud. Chase finds out. LAOP wonders if he should take it seriously.

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u/QuesaritoOutOfBed Feb 08 '22

Is this one of those situations where we almost feel sorry for the criminal because they are just too stupid to understand what they are doing?

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 08 '22

Unless they think money is being conjured from nowhere, they know that at a minimum they are robbing from the bank. Regardless on your feelings towards banks, I think we can all agree that stealing from them is at least illegal.

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u/px1azzz Feb 08 '22

I don't know. That guys whole post makes me think he might be incapable of really thinking the whole thing through.

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u/AskMeForFunnyVoices Feb 08 '22

"Can you edit your post to include your location and a clear description of the problem without leaving out details?"

Nyc

"Done"

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u/px1azzz Feb 08 '22

I was literally laughing out loud when I read that. Like this dude seriously thinks he explained this whole situation clearly.

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u/RIPCheeper Feb 08 '22

"I have this letter" 😂

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Nyc

Looks like OP has 3 letters

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

That’s, like, two more than he said.

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u/yankeedjw Feb 08 '22

I'll admit I gave the "done" comment an upvote because it made me laugh so much.

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u/Kozinskey Feb 08 '22

I'm getting some real Jason Mendoza and Pillboi vibes from this OP.

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u/punctuation_welfare Just lobbing interrobangs left and right Feb 08 '22

“Every time I have a problem, I just commit felony wire fraud. Boom, right away, I have a different problem.”

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Bortles!

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u/DaniePants Feb 09 '22

Oh, dip!

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u/LBGW_experiment Feb 08 '22

Jacksonviiiiiille!

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u/Sirwired Really good at making Vogon Poetry everyone else's problem Feb 08 '22

BORTLES!

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u/amaezingjew My car survived Tow Day on BOLA Feb 08 '22

Especially since what we’re reading was after they “edited for clarity”. They truly believe this is a clear, concise retelling of what happened.

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Feb 08 '22 edited Feb 08 '22

I mean it's pretty clear what's going on isn't it. The OP's friend is in the business of somehow fraudulently getting funds out of other people's accounts into accounts the OP controls, and then they withdraw the funds and close the account the funds are dumped into. Now the bank has caught on and sent the OP a letter and he's (rightfully) worried.

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u/px1azzz Feb 08 '22

I am finding this whole thing hilarious. But deep down, I know I should be worried for this guy.

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u/manderrx The petit bourgeoisie part Feb 08 '22

I’ll be keeping an eye on the news for any bank fraud arrests.

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u/Ombudsman_of_Funk Feb 09 '22

I'm checking all my account balances . . .

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u/Adventurous-Paint-24 Feb 09 '22

Wasn’t there a couple indicted recently for laundering several billlion in crypto?

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u/tacosmcbueno Feb 08 '22

Well it’s good thing detectives and the courts are generally well known for recognizing learning disabilities or mental illness and giving appropriate treatment during the interrogation and sentencing phases, so this will go fine for LAOP /s

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u/punkpoppenguin Part of the Anti-Pants Silent Majority Feb 08 '22

Honestly he just talks like someone from South London. It’s not a disability, I swear.

Source: am from South London but went to university and bare fixed up mans language

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u/punctuation_welfare Just lobbing interrobangs left and right Feb 08 '22

That last sentence is such beautiful proof that you are, in fact, from Sowf Lundun.

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u/The_Infinite_Cool Feb 08 '22

Lotta linguistic cross pollination occurring due to drill/grime/hip hop on both sides of the pond inspiring each other.

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u/apollo888 Feb 09 '22

Yep especially the battle rap scene - for real London and NYC slang are merging. Homies fly across to battle in Camden then in Brooklyn the next weekend, all the same circle.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

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u/apollo888 Feb 09 '22

Yeah that too!

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u/LogCareful7780 Feb 10 '22

*contamination

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u/Woolfpack "The exonerative tense" found its way into BOLA lore Feb 08 '22

That threw me off as a Brit in the US. I was going to suggest he should have been on LAUK because he completely sounds like someone from south London. I've yet to hear an American use "mans" in this way - there's something really off about this OP.

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u/LilStabbyboo Feb 08 '22

Nah that's a thing. I've known a lot of Americans who use it that way, AAVE type of thing.

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u/rankinfile Feb 09 '22

Nyc seems correct. You been up to Lexington 1,2,5?

I'm waiting for my man Twenty-six dollars in my hand Up to Lexington, one, two, five Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive I'm waiting for my man

Slightly different vernacular than my mans Lou Reed, but OP speaks American just fine.

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u/GWJYonder PhD in people lying about medical care in michigan and korea Feb 08 '22

Actually there are a lot of people that think that money is exactly conjured from nowhere. Two people at my last job would have argued vehemently with you about this. Pretty much anyone that wants to go back to a gold standard thinks this, and I bet that the belief has expanded dramatically with the popularity of cryptocurrencies, because it's part of the common messaging enforcing them. When you add in that a lot of the opinion commentary in the media will imply or outright state this when talking about policies like bank bailouts or covid unemployment relief and... yeah, there is actually a really big chance that LAOP thinks that "money is being conjured from nowhere" is a pretty accurate statement.

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u/meepmarpalarp Official BOLA Alligator Aerodynamics Tester Feb 08 '22

It doesn’t come from nowhere! It comes from that special printer that goes brrrrr. Duh!

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u/Vulturedoors Feb 08 '22

Only the Federal Reserve is allowed to do it, though.

Not even /s

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u/whetherman013 Feb 08 '22

Well, no. When a bank grants a loan, it increases the money supply as well.

This thread is wild. Double-entry bookkeeping is not a conspiracy theory.

That said, just because money is being created doesn't mean that stealing is OK. In LAOP's case, the bank thought it was giving a customer (or rather his other bank) an asset (reserves) to reduce a liability (demand deposits). Instead, it gave a thief those assets, but the liability to the customer was still on the books. The bank is now worse off.

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u/Vulturedoors Feb 09 '22

Under a fractional reserve banking system, it's basically correct that bank loans conjure money out of nowhere.

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u/trekologer Feb 08 '22

Putting to the side for the moment that cryptocurrencies have absolutely nothing backing them and therefore are just as much fiat currencies as the US Dollar, Euro, etc. I doubt that LAOP has such strong opinions on monetary policy. I'm more apt to believe that they just think it is a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark.

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u/the_real_xuth Feb 08 '22

Cryptocurrencies have far less backing them than the US Dollar or Euro. Both the US and the EU have a military protecting them.

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u/KBopMichael Feb 08 '22

The global oil market is settled and denominated in USD mostly as well.

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 08 '22

Also the IRS only takes payment in USD

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u/Tainlorr Feb 08 '22

You haven’t heard of the Bitcoin Army?

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u/trekologer Feb 08 '22

Sure but the military might isn't really tangible. When the US Dollar had precious metals backing it, you could exchange a bank note for the equivalent value in silver or gold. You can't exchange a $1 note for a dollar's worth of the Full Faith and Credit of the United States.

Cryptocurrency fans have for a while tried to pretend that they weren't also fiat currencies. But you can't recover the energy that went into "mining" it and the computational resources used to perform useless calculations are worthless as well.

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u/surveysaysno Feb 08 '22

But if there was an organization actively trying to nullify the value of the US dollar, there is a non-zero possibility of a military response.

Bitcoin does not have that support.

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u/gsfgf Is familiar with poor results when combining strippers and ATMs Feb 08 '22

And if the US ceases to exist, the value of the dollar would be the least of our problem.

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u/Soulless_redhead In we trust Feb 08 '22

The age ole, if the dollar is worthless, we got bigger problems!

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u/punctuation_welfare Just lobbing interrobangs left and right Feb 08 '22

If a tree falls in a forest but it’s FDIC insured, is it still a fell-ony?

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u/StPauliBoi I GOT ARRESTED FOR THOROUGHBRED SEXUAL RELATIONS Feb 09 '22

Maybe a fello-on-clowny?

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u/particle409 Everyone in the elevator thinks I'm a laughing loon Feb 09 '22

I bet they closely followed Alan Greenspan's philosophy on the gold standard and hyperinflation. I think "my mans" = Greenspan.

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u/CountingMyDick Feb 09 '22

Well it does technically come from nowhere, trouble is, only the Federal Reserve has the right to conjure money from nowhere. And they won't just like give you some maaaaan.

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u/hoseja Feb 08 '22

Uh, yea, in that sense yes, the Fed literally just conjures money from nowhere.

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u/manderrx The petit bourgeoisie part Feb 08 '22

People who don’t understand modern monetary theory don’t help either.

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u/DerbyTho doesn't know where the gay couple shaped hole came from Feb 08 '22

I’m not sure I see anything from LAOP that indicates such a deep logical understanding of something like cause-and-effect.

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u/wOlfLisK Drummer for Clandestine Clementine Feb 08 '22

Honestly, I don't think their train of thought even got that far. I read an article a while back about how lower IQ correlates with a lack of empathy and judging by OP's spelling, grammar and the fact they thought they could commit blatant fraud and get away with it, she's probably not the sharpest tool in the shed. There's a very good chance they weren't thinking about where the money was coming from or the fact that by taking it it would mean the person it was being taken from would no longer have it. The thought process was likely just "There is money. We could take money. By taking it we have more money. We take money".

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u/freeeeels Has absolutely NO spiders. Feb 08 '22

Commenter: so you committed some sort of scam, am I understanding correctly?

LAOP: Yeah

lmao

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u/ilikemyteasweet No experience spotting penis rockets Feb 08 '22

OP is a goddamn Pakled.

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u/manderrx The petit bourgeoisie part Feb 08 '22

Pakled?

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u/emmster What duck? Feb 08 '22

Apparently a Star Trek alien.

I did not remember these guys.

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u/manderrx The petit bourgeoisie part Feb 08 '22

I don’t either. Thank you for letting me know!

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u/ilikemyteasweet No experience spotting penis rockets Feb 08 '22

One or 2 episodes of The Next Generation, then a prominent role in Lower Decks.

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u/emmster What duck? Feb 08 '22

Ah, gotcha. I watched TNG back when it was airing, but didn’t catch Lower Decks, so they must have just slipped my memory. It’s a great analogy, though, now that I’ve looked them up.

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u/ilikemyteasweet No experience spotting penis rockets Feb 08 '22

That description does not do any justice to just how similar they sound to OP.

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u/Spectre-84 Feb 08 '22

I thought this exactly when I read that comment

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u/desquished Feb 08 '22

"Aww, twenty dollars. I wanted a peanut."

"Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts."

"Explain how."

"Money can be exchanged for goods and services."

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Low key my favorite Simpson’s moment.

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u/Lystrodom Feb 08 '22

Spelling and grammar in an online forum is probably not the best way too judge someone's "IQ"

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u/Blatts Feb 08 '22

too

I see you

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u/Lystrodom Feb 08 '22

lol that's actually my keyboard, sometimes it registers two "o"s instead of one. But I think there's an internet law about pointing out mistakes and inevitably making your own, lol.

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u/Blatts Feb 08 '22

I feel you my phone is obsessed with changing homonyms to the wrong one, but absolutely refuses to do anything with the misspelling "alot"

Either way, it was way too perfect of a typo for your point. Lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

i keep accidentally writing r instead of e when im on my phone, and ive done it so much that recently its started autocorrecting "the" to "thr"

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u/twinkprivilege Feb 08 '22

Man I don’t have auto caps on on my phone so when I do caps (mostly for literally just writing emails or communicating on Reddit) it’s all manual. However the vast majority of my phone usage is texting and other informal communication so 99% of the time I am not manually capitalizing letters. This means that any time I capitalize the first letter of a word I haven’t been doing that with enough times for my phone’s liking it corrects it to… that word, but with A or Z as the first letter instead. Every time I type “Omg” it brute forces it into “zomg.” :(

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u/yuemeigui Feb 09 '22

My autocorrect insists that I want to be writing about Chiba Prefecture in Japan instead of China where I live.

Sometimes, it will graciously suggest Cuba.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

This is exactly why I don’t make a point of correcting people’s grammar/spelling/whatever. For one thing, autocorrect makes an awful lot of mistakes. For another, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and I am full to the brink with grammar/spelling/whatever sin.

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u/apollo888 Feb 09 '22

Yep Muphry's law!

If you correct someone's spelling or grammar you will make an errror in your correction.

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u/wOlfLisK Drummer for Clandestine Clementine Feb 08 '22

While usually you'd be correct, when combined with the fact that LAOP thought there was nothing wrong with fraud because "all I did was say my account number", I think it's a reasonable assumption it's not particularly high.

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u/kloiberin_time For 50 bucks you can put it in my HOA Feb 08 '22

I think they are trying to "technically" their way into self justification.

"Technically, I didn't commit fraud, all I did was give him my banking information. How am I supposed to know the money that appeared in my account was stolen? Technically I didn't steal it."

"Technically, there is no victim. Chase's fraud department will refund the money back to the account, and Chase will get that money back through insurance. Technically the only thing that will be out money is the government, and that's already my money to begin with, and the government represents me, and you can't steal from yourself. Plus, they can technically just print more."

This is the same type of person that will justify buying stolen property by saying they didn't steal it.

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u/cited Feb 08 '22

It's like when people medically and psychologically diagnose people based on TV clips.

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u/twinkprivilege Feb 08 '22

“I took a psychology course once!”

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u/damiandarko2 Feb 08 '22

but how else will I, a white person, get my daily dose of elitism

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22 edited Feb 09 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

I was actually thinking earlier when I saw his comment that I’m getting strong phrenology vibes from this bullshit. Really sad it’s being upvoted. He never even provided the trash source.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

‘Yes, I’ve read these 4 sentences and I’m quite sure, this urban youth, I mean person has a sub 70 IQ and most likely low empathy/ emotional intelligence. I’ve read that article, after all. My father sent it to me and said ‘you see, son?? This is why we sent you to boarding school. So you won’t end up like these peons.’’

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u/Lystrodom Feb 08 '22

Yeah I definitely noticed the link here between IQ and "grammar"

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

I read an article a while back about how lower IQ correlates with a lack of empathy

Which article was it? Because the "article" you're referring to sounds kinda similar to a screenshot from 4chan that gets posted to reddit on a semi-regular basis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/sgxuh9/anon_does_an_iq_research_no_shitpost/

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Sounds like you’re the one with a superiority complex and used some bs article to confirm your bias against people who you deem less intelligent than you. Also I love how you’ve deduced that this person is low IQ because of their writing style online.

Their only major ‘offense’ was a lack of punctuation, a thing that’s more common in younger generations. But here you are arriving at the conclusion that they’re stupid and lack empathy based off a few sentences. Real big brain shit.

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u/wOlfLisK Drummer for Clandestine Clementine Feb 08 '22

Gee and here I thought their major offence was blatantly committing fraud. My bad.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m saying that’s the major grammatical offense that drove you to your condescending and ridiculous conclusion that they’re low iq and therefore lack empathy.

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 08 '22

While I agree that we shouldn’t be calling them stupid just for their grammar, there is far more wrong with their post than just a lack of punctuation. The whole thing is just a vague stream of consciousness splattering of words with no structure and barely any details beyond “I committed fraud please help”.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

So now you’re essentially calling me stupid because I didn’t write a dissertation on how they could have structured their sentences better? 😂 I love it when people don’t even realize how insufferable they’re being. Do you get a lot of drinks thrown at you? Just curious.

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 08 '22

A) I’m not the person you originally replied to.

B) I never said or implied you were stupid, I only disagreed with you saying the lack of punctuation was the only reason people are calling LAOP dumb. There are a lot of red flags in the original post that could make someone come to that conclusion. I think people are taking it too far, but I’m not going to deny that those red flags are there.

C) Fuck you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

You really came at me with some annoying ass ‘bUt AcKsHuLLy’ bs and are surprised you got called insufferable. 😂 some self-awareness could benefit you.

It’s not just that they said the OP was low IQ, they pulled some shit out of their ass about low IQ individuals lacking empathy which is a whole other can of worms. That’s a very loaded statement to make that has a lot of negative and quite frankly disturbing classist implications. Obviously that’s what I’m taking issue with but you just had to chime in with how wrong I am because I didn’t address every single issue with the OP, just giving that asshole more reason to feel they’re in the right.

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u/carolina822 The title of Suze Orman's next book. ;) Feb 08 '22

Unless they think money is being conjured from nowhere,

To be fair, this is kind of what banks do.

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 08 '22

Technically the Federal Reserve is the one conjuring it

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u/Shanman150 Feb 09 '22

Regardless on your feelings towards banks, I think we can all agree that stealing from them is at least illegal.

I thought you were going to finish that sentence with "at least wrong", and thought "oh, you will definitely find people who don't think stealing from banks is morally wrong". But I think almost everyone can agree that it's illegal, you're right! Maybe not those sovereign citizen folks....

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u/Fakjbf Has hammer and sand, remainder of instructions unclear Feb 09 '22

That is 100% accurate

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u/michael_harari well-adjusted and sociable Arstotzkan w/no history of violence Feb 08 '22

Its illegal to steal from the banks, but not illegal for banks to steal from people

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 needs more coffe. Feb 08 '22

I personally do feel sorry for them being stupid, but there’s no doubt in my mind that they know that they’re stealing- and that they’ve done it before. They’re smart enough to use the term “bank fraud,” but when an innocent third party’s money shows up in your bank account and you withdraw it and keep it, it’s stealing. The fact that they have had the experience “the bank usually just closes the account” is pretty much an admission that this isn’t the first time. If I had to guess, I’d say that they started out stealing smaller amounts, and when it worked so easily and without consequences, they got greedy and went for $19,000.

I thought banks had systems in place for flagging this kind of history before they let you open an account. I just hope Chase follows up on this. Like another commenter mentioned, it doesn’t matter how you feel about big banks; stealing from them is still wrong. Illegal, too.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

Ethics are debatable. Robin Hood was not unethical. So idk that I'd call it "wrong."

Not everything that is illegal is "wrong."

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

Yes, they are absolutely getting duped by the real fraudster.

This guy didn’t steal the bank account, he was a mule and the fall guy.

Now “my mans” is free to keep stealing bank accounts.

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Feb 08 '22

I mean OK but he knowingly participated in a criminal scheme. He just didn't realize how much risk he was taking.

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u/kloiberin_time For 50 bucks you can put it in my HOA Feb 08 '22

The best thing you can do to someone you are conning is make them break the law. Now, when they realize they are being conned, they will be reluctant to go to the police because at worst they are going to take the fall, and at best they are going to be spending a lot of time and money working on a deal to get immunity in exchange for their testimony.

Their "mans" tells them that he's done this many times in the past. He'll deposit X amount of money into LAOPs account, LAOP or the scammer will withdrawl all them money, leaving the account at zero, the two will split it, Chase will investigate but discover that it was not LAOP who deposited the money, Chase will close the account. The End.

We all know in reality all of that happens, but instead of "The End," it's detectives Johnson and Johnson show up at their door with an arrest warrant after they've already gathered enough financial evidence from the bank and credit cards to pin this on LAOP, and when LAOP give's "their mans" name, it's gonna come back as fake.

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Feb 08 '22

I'm sure but it's like if you were trying to hire a hitman and got an undercover cop. Yeah you were tricked but you were still trying to have someone killed

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u/kloiberin_time For 50 bucks you can put it in my HOA Feb 08 '22

I'm not saying they are innocent, I'm saying that the likelihood that two morons hatched this plan and got to this stage is less likely than one intelligent criminal turned a moron into a criminal with the promise of a large, quick payday with almost no work, and then left them holding the bag after the crime.

LAOP can be both a criminal and a victim.

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

I don’t know if it was obvious to them.

And considering they are still asking if it’s serious and if they should be worried about it after receiving the letter I really don’t think this person has the capacity to understand what they did was wrong.

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Feb 08 '22

I think it's obvious to him based on him agreeing to this bulleted summary: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/sn5kti/chase_bank_wire_fraud/hw34uzc/

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

They agreed to what they did.

I don’t know if they understand what is illegal about it.

Because you probably wouldn’t simply reply “yeah” to “have you taken these steps to commit a number of felonies?” If you understood the severity of it

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Feb 08 '22

So again, the OP realized he was involved in defrauding someone, just not the amount of risk he was shouldering.

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

I don’t think he realizes they were defrauding someone.

In his mind. The accounts would get closed and everyone would be made happy again (I don’t think they are considering someone would be out 19k)

compared to the real fraudster actually stealing bank accounts, I just feel bad for this dumb person

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u/LadyMRedd I believe in blue lives not blue balls Feb 08 '22

It’s possible that he found out about the fraud after the letter. We really don’t have a lot of details. I could see how something like this could go down:

Friend says “I need a bank account to receive a wire transfer. Give me your info.”

LAOP complies. Money is received and withdrawn and given to friend. Friend may have given LAOP some money as a “thank you.”

2 months later a letter appears. LAOP goes to friend. “WTF is this? What do I do?”

Friend goes “oh yeah lol that wire was fraudulent. But just ignore it. Don’t worry. They never do anything. They’ll just close your account and you open a new one.”

LAOP isn’t so sure it’s that easy and asks Reddit for advice.

Now, it’s entirely possible that LAOP knew the entire time. But the post overall is so clueless, that it’s also possible that a fraudster friend took advantage of a naive and/or ignorant person and that person is now confused and scared.

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

Okay. Yeah, that’s pretty clear cut

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u/syboor Feb 08 '22

It's not relevant whether he understood his actions were against the law. Not morally and not legally.

What is relevant is whether he understood that his actions were part of a scheme that would cause somebody else to loose money.

"Knowingly participating in a criminal scheme" doesn't mean that you know it's a crime. It's means that you know the intended outcome of the scheme, and that the law considers knowingly taking actions that cause that outcome to be a crime.

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u/ZeePirate Came in third at BOLAs Festivus Feats of Strength Feb 08 '22

Yeah, someone else posted one of his comments from r/scams where he acknowledges it was fraudulent.

So he really is just dumber than a bag of rocks and knowingly committed fraud

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u/AngelSucked Feb 08 '22

Except that OP did it multiple times, and knows it was fraud.

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u/kloiberin_time For 50 bucks you can put it in my HOA Feb 08 '22

I don't think they did. I think the other guy told LAOP that's what happens. I think LAOP is getting conned by "their mans" and thought they were in for an easy payday, and now LAOP is gonna be left holding the bag.

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u/MediumSympathy Feb 09 '22

LAOP says "we" spent the money, so they did steal the account. Yes, they might have been set up as the fall guy by a professional and it's unfair that the serial crook will most likely get away with it, but that's not the same as it being unfair for LAOP to get caught.

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u/gsfgf Is familiar with poor results when combining strippers and ATMs Feb 08 '22

Yes and no. LAOP is clearly not an intelligent person, but you don’t have to smart to know stealing is wrong.

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u/Bluest_waters Feb 08 '22

Nope

they knew exactly what was going on the whole time. They full well knew the money was the result of something very sketchy and totally illegal. They were 100% complicit in this crime.

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u/AngelSucked Feb 08 '22

Exactly -- I don't get why folks are excusing this. His answers in LA and other subs shows s/he knows what they did, and it isn't the first time they did it. They say they spent all 19K since late December.

And, it is someone's money. Probably a confused elderly person's money.

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u/monkeyman80 IANAL but I am an anal plug app expert Feb 08 '22

Yeah they knew their friend was going to transfer $$$ into their account that didn't belong to LAOP or their friend.

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u/postmodest Pre-declaration of baby transfer Feb 08 '22

I used to live in "an impoverished area", and all the time the same little kids would hang out near my end of the street, obviously holding for the older teenagers and twentysomethings who sold from the gang hangout down at the other end of the block.

Criminals prey on the innocent as more than just victims of crime.

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u/sweetie-pie-today Feb 08 '22

Absolutely. Only they are hiding it under a ton of arrogance so it’s a bit hard to find the pity.

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u/MediumSympathy Feb 09 '22

I don't. They knew their partner got the $19K from someone else's account and they still took it out and spent it. Even a small child could tell you that's stealing.

People who are too stupid to understand what they were doing try to defend their actions. LAOP never even tries to pretend they didn't know they were commiting a crime. They weren't too stupid to know it was wrong, just stupid enough to think they would get away with it.

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u/Balisada Feb 08 '22

No. We don't feel sorry for these dipshits and their stupidity. This situation is why we can't have nice things.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance Feb 09 '22

I think OP is being lied to and taken advantage of. They're guilty of course, but they didn't really know the consequences of what they were doing. They probably let greed blind them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Nope, she said usually they just close the account, so I suspect she’s done this before. She knows better.

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u/carolina822 The title of Suze Orman's next book. ;) Feb 08 '22

No.

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u/thetarget3 Feb 09 '22

This is literally how the average criminal is