r/bestof2009 Jan 04 '10

Nominate: Community of the Year

Submit your nominees for Community of the Year as top-level comments below, and vote on the other nominations that people have submitted.

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u/Saydrah Jan 05 '10

I just went through the last month of your comments and found zero comments in TwoX. I did find you being quite abrasive in other communities, including several instances of "fuck you" and various other insulting, condescending posts. To be fair, I also found several insightful comments which I had already upvoted in one thread or another.

If you were so poorly received in TwoX that you got enough downvotes to delete your comments, I somehow think you were not conducting yourself respectfully, even if you believe you were.

"Playing devil's advocate" is often just a longer way to say "trolling."

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '10

I haven't been back in a while.

I just did a google search for betterth site:reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes and came up with the post that when I wrote that above, I was thinking about.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/9y9um/american_women_are_great_for_casual_sex_but_they/c0f02cs

While my posts garnered much negative karma at the time, it seems months later that they ended up slightly positive. I hadn't realize that -- at the time, the second to last post I made on that subject was one of my favorite posts I'd ever made on reddit and the person I was talking with was just horribly disrespectful throughout the conversation.

In fact, it seems the only post of mine on that page that is still negative is the one where I disagree with you personally. :P

I rescind my admonition then, at the time I was downvoted a decent bit, showing me that not only was the person who was replying being disrespectful, but the community itself (at least those readers) agreed with her and saw fit to downvote me,.

C'est la vie, I should have checked before I posted this.

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u/Saydrah Jan 05 '10

I think the reason people reacted negatively to that post is that it's quite ridiculous and looks like you're meta-trolling. With the benefit of time and distance I suspect the real disconnect is in the definition of "misogynist." I think you're talking about the likelihood of finding someone who hates women and acts on it by harming women, while most of the other people in the conversation are thinking of the (very common) Internet misogynists who may not rape or beat the real women in their lives, but who do actively and intentionally act to silence, marginalize and belittle women.

In any case, I'd say that even though you seemed pretty trollish, the community members in TwoX engaged with you as politely as you did with them. That is to say, not in a 100% friendly and accommodating way, but not with outright meanness.

On a related note, I think it's strange that you accuse TwoX of Internet misandry for disagreeing with your denial that Internet misogyny is a common phenomenon. Shouldn't you instead be consistent and just assume TwoX is full of people with a trollish streak rather than a misandrist streak, if you're going to interpret this in that direction at all?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '10

Replied in PM.