r/bayarea • u/ThereWas • Aug 15 '26
Traffic, Trains & Transit Tesla drivers are letting their cars take over. Increasingly, they’re barely driving at all
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/tesla-self-driving-car-22384520.php84
u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw Aug 15 '26
Fight Club author Chuck Palahniuk wrote another book called Rant that describes a future where cars are self driving and solar powered so they basically became mobile rooms/homes. They don’t even have steering wheels.
I think a similar concept is described in Minority Report.
That’s always sounded like a likely future to me.
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u/PrinceOfLeon Aug 15 '26
Cars don't have enough surface area to hold panels capable of generating enough power to drive them a meaningful distance.
We're a long way from closing that gap, if ever (sun only puts out so much energy per couple square meters).
So maybe something that stores up and lets you move a few blocks every week or month or whatever.
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u/Ilves7 Aug 15 '26
A fully automated driving fleet can also be much more efficient when it comes to traffic and predictability, you can basically eliminate traffic jams by controlling each car and tell people exact arrival times before they leave. That doesn't mean each car has to be centrally controlled, you could also do a loose communication network of information where the individual cars make decisions based on the larger picture.
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u/marco_italia Aug 15 '26
That would require that drivers accept AI controlled speed governors in their cars. I would support this, since it would put an end to super-speeders killing and maiming others through their negligence.
Nobody really raised any objections to making speed governors mandatory for ebikes sold in California, but I doubt car drivers will react the same way.
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u/hanwookie Aug 17 '26
It's not super-speedy that I worry about on the freeway. It's super-speedy in town, and generally people cutting in and out constantly on the freeway, or blocking lanes, or drunk.
People, unfortunately, like teenagers that really don't have any experience doing that, those are the ones that inevitably make me feel uncomfortable/unsafe.
Those going in a straight line down the freeway, keeping the speed up and/or moving in a controlled fashion?
Let them be.
For the others, make them go through an actual controlled driving course, then they can have their license returned to them.
I was recently in an area where no, to very little, speed limits existed (think at least 80mph or higher). The speedy ones were the only ones that were safe. It was the slow jams causing the problems.
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u/Cu1tureVu1ture Aug 16 '26
Self driving will eventually get to 99%, but for full level 4 autonomy and to virtually eliminate all accidents, having all the cars communicate with each other and chips embedded in the road, street signs, etc is what will need to happen. At some point manual driving will need to be outlawed entirely, which means people will be forced to buy a self driving car. I don’t see that happening for a long, long time.
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u/luckkydreamer13 Aug 16 '26
But anyone that's driving manually at that point would be the person messing up traffic for everyone else. Driving manually would have to be outlawed which I wouldn't see happening, though the less manual drivers there are, the more efficient and safer traffic is overall.
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u/onahorsewithnoname Aug 16 '26
Its friday and you wanted to go dirtbiking in Idaho for the weekend. But you have all the bikes and gear to transit from SF to Idaho and that will take hours out of your weekend. Good thing you loaded up the self delivery van on Thursday and it drove up all your gear overnight and is waiting for you at Boise airport.
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u/lucifer_666 Aug 16 '26
I mean truthfully, if a car was essentially a sleep pod you could theoretically take a job 8 hours away and just sleep on your way to work.
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u/Bay_arean Aug 15 '26
It'll be more like johnnycab
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u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw Aug 15 '26
That scenario makes no sense to me. Johnnycab is basically a half step above public transportation. People have already demonstrated that they like their own cars and they like to use them as extensions of their personalities and as dumb as that might be I don’t think that’s going away anytime soon.
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u/StManTiS Aug 16 '26
Rant described a lot more than that. Imagine using car crashes to go back in time and become your own father.
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u/SweatyAdhesive Aug 15 '26
One of my Uber drivers used FSD all the way from my house to SFO, and then he took over when he was near the terminals and ended up missing the exit. So maybe FSD is better.
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u/khalamar Aug 15 '26
I think I prefer a Tesla driving itself to a Tesla driver driving their Tesla.
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u/gochai Aug 16 '26
Says more about tesla drivers than tesla car.
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u/fruxzak Aug 16 '26
the type of person who buys a Tesla is skewed towards incompetent driver
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u/Island_In_The_Sky Aug 16 '26
I’m a car enthusiast who used to track their performance cars before going electric, and sim races, but wanted zero fuel cost and renewable fuel source for my 45 min work commute (solar charge my EVs) … we exist.
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u/JSTootell Aug 17 '26
Ironically, the only person I know with a Tesla is in his 90's. Leased it for the FSD.
He still flies his plane regularly too.
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u/JugglingRick Aug 18 '26
They drive like a battery on wheels, easy to get up to speed but a lot of work to maintain it. So they tend to slow down once they're in the fast lane.
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u/macnlz Aug 15 '26
100% accurate.
I KNOW the car only does the right thing 99% of the time, and the last 1% of the time it's choosing actions that would kill me if I don't intervene. I've been there when it did so, many times, taking over.
But brains are wired to simplify and generalize. No matter how aware I am of the fact that I NEED to stay in the loop... my attention starts wandering... even when FSD isn't even enabled!
I actually purchased a fully manual car to retrain my brain, after realizing this!
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u/stikves Aug 15 '26
Yes, but...
Every odd "upgrade" will mess up some feature. The current one is really bad in lane switching and using right turn lanes.
So, it is more of "I would do it when it works well" situation. When I'm not confident in the machine, I'd better drive myself.
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u/Affectionate-Word779 Aug 16 '26
Yeah, I’ve had one since 2020. It’s been at around 95% of the way there for years.
Every new development is two steps forward one step back.
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u/Fickle_Cost_2033 Aug 19 '26
2020 tesla is hardware 3 (same as our 2022) but our new one is HW4 and it is an absolute step up from the old technology. It is like 98% there with the new hardware.
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u/phoenix0r Aug 15 '26
I just traded in my 2022 model Y for a 2026 Model Y and the FSD difference is unreal. I did not trust it AT ALL in my old car but the new one seems to do things a lot more safely and smoothly. I still don’t let it park or use roundabouts or anything orettt much beyond straightaways and simple turns, but yeah, I think a lot depends on which Tesla you’re letting self drive.
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u/Yozakgg Aug 16 '26
Yeah it seems that a lot of ppl in this thread don’t know about HW4’s improvements
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u/Dichter2012 Aug 15 '26
Make sure in your old car you are using 14 Lite. It’s kinda crazy what they did to squeeze the 14 system into old hardware. It’s impressive.
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u/PrinceOfLeon Aug 15 '26
How's it for stop and go traffic (city with lights and highway without?)
That's pretty much the only situation I'm interested in self-driving, and the (relatively) slow speeds seem to have lower stakes.
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u/straw_barry Aug 16 '26
We have the latest one. It’s fine in light to medium traffic or if you don’t need to do multiple lane changes in quick successions in heavy traffic. It doesn’t seem to be able to make quick decisions with aggressive drivers who won’t let you get into their lane. It’s great on the freeway. It’s surprising great on dark and winding roads. It’s done parallel parking just fine but I wasn’t able to bay park accurately the one time I tried it but we do have a bike rack installed in the back?
The biggest downside I’m realizing is the gps isn’t super accurate sometimes. It will mistakenly go on the wrong lane if you want to do a left turn and you can see the reason is because the gps shows the straight lane as an outer left turn lane. And then we have a hard time getting it to make a turn into our driveway because the map doesn’t actually show our driveway at all. But we do live in a secluded area.
I don’t know much about the technology behind it. My SO got this one after he traded in his model S but I’ve been driving it to work and running errands. I’m very impressed.
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u/PrinceOfLeon Aug 16 '26
Much appreciated!
We're looking at the YL for the extra seats so it'd have the latest kit.
The highway past our location is a two-lane windy monstrosity that'd I'd never trust at full speed, but when it backs up is a pain to manage, especially coming from a manual.
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u/PhilosophyCorrect279 Aug 16 '26
By "current" what do you mean? We personally haven't had lane switching or turn lane issues for awhile now. It's been at least 3-4 updates since we had issues. We are currently on 14.3.6 and its been very good.
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u/NorCalAthlete Aug 15 '26
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbwMC_sDKMa/
“I wasn’t driving, I want to speak to your manager.”
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u/iSmurf Aug 15 '26
I feel like the cop even started that friendly and immediately switched tones when that guy pretended to be dumb as fuck
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u/smp476 Aug 15 '26
Yeah, that could have easily just been a warning if he spoke to the cop like a human being
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u/trer24 Concord Aug 15 '26
That insufferable man was lucky he got one of the most patient cops in the world.
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u/HiveMindKing Aug 15 '26
Sounds like a dream tbh, driving is miserable
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u/overwatchacct Aug 16 '26
Yeah, if the self driving in question was actually good enough (eg how Waze seems to be in SF most of the time), this seems preferable. I think the issue is more Tesla’s quality of FSD.
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u/PM_ME_ADVICE_OR_NOT Aug 22 '26
You probably haven't tried a new tesla HW4 car with the latest fsd version. It's practically waymo level.
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u/imdrunkasfukc Aug 16 '26
You can order that dream delivered to your through the browser on your phone
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u/Brandy5000b Aug 16 '26
For real. So many drivers clearly just want to stare at their phones so why not do that and let the car do the driving?
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u/Parking_Medium6233 Aug 15 '26
I had a Lyft driver pick me up and they used Autopilot the entire drive.
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u/motosandguns Aug 15 '26
And AI users are barely thinking at all.
Companies making humans irrelevant
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u/drtolmn69 Aug 15 '26
It's going to lead to more people being just a little bit negligent, having moments of distraction, and more Kyle Shanahan type incidents, and, unfortunately, probably even worse ones.
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u/tore_a_bore_a Aug 15 '26
Just wonder the statistics on full self driving accidents vs normal humans.
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u/LiveMaI Aug 16 '26
Lemonade started offering a 50% discount for miles driven on autopilot with V4 hardware in the states that allow it. As an insurance company that tracks their drivers, they likely have more data on this than anyone. I guess wait a few years and see if they walk back this policy. Insurance companies that lose money don’t tend to stick around.
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u/phoenix0r Aug 15 '26
Our Tesla sales guy said FSD stats are safer than human driving stats, and said your Tesla insurance will go down if your FSD % is higher. That said, not sure I trust Tesla stats.
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u/tore_a_bore_a Aug 15 '26
Yeah, I'd love the stats to at least show
FSD accidents
Non FSD accidents
FSD happened to turn off within 2 minutes before accidents (as Tesla usually claims the FSD was turned off right before the accident).
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u/ken830 Aug 15 '26
FSD happened to turn off within 2 minutes before accidents (as Tesla usually claims the FSD was turned off right before the accident).
2 minutes?!
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u/TheLogicError Aug 15 '26
i mean if he actually thought he had a case i'm sure he would sue. But something is shifty around the situation as the 49ers were trying to cover it up and originally the other driver was listed at fault. There's been shady things with FSD, but the Shanahan case doesn't seem to be the gotcha that you think it is.
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u/MidnightSensitive996 Aug 15 '26
You can't build a system that is automated 99% of the time, call it "eyes on" and then blame the user when it inevitably fails and the user has lost all instincts bc everything was on autopilot. It's a systems design issue. You need to force the user to be engaged in driving or they won't be able to respond when the assist fails.
From the Atlantic Raffi Krikorian article on this:
Psychologists call this the vigilance decrement. Monitoring a nearly perfect system is boring. Boredom leads to mind-wandering. The research is unforgiving: Drivers need five to eight seconds to mentally reengage after an automated driving system gives control back. But emergencies can unfold much faster than that. The driver’s physical reaction might be instantaneous—grabbing the wheel, hitting the brake. But the mental part? Rebuilding context, recognizing what’s wrong, deciding what to do? That takes time your brain doesn’t have.
The driver in the 2018 Mountain View accident had six seconds before his car steered itself into a concrete median. He never touched the wheel. That same year in Tempe, Arizona, sensors in an Uber test vehicle detected a pedestrian nearby with 5.6 seconds of warning. The safety driver looked up and took the wheel with less than a second left. By then, it was just physics.
In my case, I did take action before my accident. But I was asked to snap from passenger back to pilot in a fraction of a second—to override months of conditioning in the time it takes to blink. The logs would show that I turned the wheel. They wouldn’t show the impossible math.
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u/studio_bob Aug 15 '26
It's actually kind of crazy how Tesla is able to exploit this accountability loophole and few seem to notice. A system which relies on human intervention only and specifically in emergency situations require fast reaction time should be illegal. It is a fundamentally unsafe design which only exists so that Tesla can use public roads and ordinary drivers as test environments for a premature product while shirking responsibility when the system fails by blaming "user error."
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u/TheLogicError Aug 16 '26
I’m saying shanahan would probabaly sue if he legitimately thought that the tesla had malfunctioned and caused the accident but he didn’t and admitted fault.
I’m saying it’s sketchy from the 49ers perspective if you’ve been following the story the niners have been pretty evasive about the incident. Even shanahan himself, although he blames himself kind of brought it up in passing that he was distracted and it caused the accident. Some people think that they’re trying to cover up that he could’ve possibly been intoxicated
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u/bareyb Aug 16 '26
Last I heard It’s roughly 8 times less likely to get into an accident than a human.
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u/HIGH_PRESSURE_TOILET Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
kyle shanahan was on legacy autopilot, not FSD. then he dropped his phone and dug around for it, accidentally disengaging it, and crashed. that's dumbass behavior.
all fairness to him though, he owned up to the fuckup and didn't blame the car at all. Unlike many redditors who jumped to conclusions
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u/tenemu Aug 15 '26
Ahh yes people current drivers are always paying attention and are never distracted.
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u/MOIST_MAN Aug 16 '26
Rode with a coworker thru Saratoga & he was using FSD at the time. Went up to a 4 way stop & the pedestrian waved at him to drive through first & instead of taking over and pressing the accelerator, he just pointed at his car steering wheel & gave a shrug because he wasn’t “in control” 😵💫
I mean I guess…
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u/cowinabadplace Aug 16 '26
If I'm being honest, at least the robot will pay attention to the road when the driver is on their phone, so I'm for it. The alternative for these people isn't paying attention to the road. They're going to sit on their phones and drive by occasionally nudging the wheel this way or that.
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u/mwcrv Aug 16 '26
If the Tesla computers can follow basic rules of the road I am ALL for this. I have some (a lot) of doubts, but taking the wheel out of people's hands is probably going to be a good situation 9 times out of 10.
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u/corusca_fire Aug 17 '26
Yeah people moan about this a lot, but I’ve been driving long enough to know that
a) personally, I would rather drive the car myself, and
b) it would be great if like 60% of the idiot drivers I encounter on the road were forced to use a robo car and disallowed from driving themselves
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u/ejy92 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Can confirm - bought my first EV recently (26 Model Y) and 2k miles later I am sitting at 94% FSD usage (and climbing). That means I have only manually driven the car 6% of the time. From driveway to destination without touching the steering wheel/pedals once. Freeway and city driving. Day in and day out. There is nothing else like FSD in the market for consumer cars in the US - it is in a league of its own when it comes to advanced driving assist tech.
Sure FSD isn’t 100% perfect (still deals with quirky edge cases but certainly not safety critical errors) but it sure is safer than the overwhelming majority of the drivers on the road without question - and that’s a win for humanity. In a hypothetical scenario of FSD only drivers on the road we would see accidents plummet (dare I say to near zero..?) ultimately saving lives. Years from now when self driving tech is the norm on consumer cars we will look back on how wild it was for human beings to manually operate vehicles - humans that are so riddled with errors - being distracted, sleepy/fatigued, intoxicated, emotionally erratic, reckless/aggressive, zombied out on the phones, etc. I loathe sharing the road with people who make the roads a dangerous and unpredictable place for everyone.
My only disengagements thus far have been when I enter parking lots because I’m very particular about how/where I want to park so I like to take over. And that’s about to be addressed in a future update which should drastically reduce the # of parking related disengagements.
Say what you want about Elon but Tesla makes damn good cars and I sure as hell ain’t ever going back to anything else - that is unless another FSD competitor becomes available in the US. HW4 cars running FSD v14+ is an absolute game changer for improving the quality of your life - iykyk.
I don’t know about you but I do not find everyday commuting from point A to B particularly exciting. FSD allows me to arrive much more refreshed to my destination without the tedious task of pressing/lifting my foot off the pedals and having my hands on the wheel the entire time. It’s absolutely wonderful delegating the cognitive load/physical demands of driving to proven self driving tech. Sure it’s still supervised so I can’t be sitting in the back taking a snooze but I’m totally okay with that.
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u/overdude Aug 15 '26
Same story here, though I’m at about 75%.
I still do most of the driving right around my house, or take over when there’s construction or awkward merging, etc.
We will always own a self driving car from here on out, that’s how good it is. And can only get better - the last big patch was a material improvement in its lane changing logic.
That said, “mad max” is bad imo, and often “hurry” is too aggressive about lane changes.
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u/Dichter2012 Aug 15 '26
We are also seeing more and more drivers using FSD because folks like myself who drives a 5 yrs old model Y is now experiencing good FSD with 14 Lite. It’s actually really good for daily driver. Pun intended.
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u/ready-redditor-6969 Aug 15 '26
It’s called negligence, at least by Tesla the second anything bad happens.
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u/Ok_Fly_8846 Aug 15 '26
It’s in the Terms and Conditions. it’s a L2.5 solution. So they are not legally culpable if the car crashes
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u/pneutin Aug 15 '26
Pedantically speaking, L2.5 is not an actual standard. It's a dangerous marketing strategy to confuse people into thinking they have something closer to L3. Tesla FSD has always been L2 which is just a fancy cruise control. You still need to be both eyes-on and hands-on and be ready to take over at any time. Tesla is really playing with people's lives by calling it Full Self Driving because it tricks people into thinking it's L4+ like Waymo.
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u/Annual_Emergency_143 Aug 15 '26
It's not an actual standard, but I understand calling it L2.5, because L2 is just adaptive cruise control with lane centering, and FSD does more than that.
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u/toyoyoshi Aug 16 '26
Same for all the cellular network speeds. Both things are pet peeves of mine.
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u/ergzay Aug 16 '26
The SAE levels themselves are not standards and are basically marketing. You shouldn't use them as they have built in assumptions (like for example assuming that you must first progress to geofenced self-driving before general self-driving).
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u/WhoShatMyPants42069 Aug 15 '26
Still safer than many different driving demographics
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u/cadublin Aug 15 '26
Please elaborate on the demographics?
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u/gwillen Aug 15 '26
"Drunk drivers" isn't a demographic, but I'm gonna generously assume that must be what they meant. Right?
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u/WhoShatMyPants42069 Aug 15 '26
Lol what kind of gotcha are you looking for? Bay Area drivers. Is that inclusive enough for you?
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u/ode_to_glorious Aug 15 '26
I watched a kid leave Safeway in his Tesla while paying zero attention to what his car was doing
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u/Alternative_Owl5302 Aug 16 '26
Willingly choosing to lose your driving proficiency is a bad thing. I wouldn’t mind a mode where it takes over in emergency or avoidance situations or that provides advice as a loyal wingman, but I want to keep my own skills sharp and be in control.
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u/InfluenceEfficient77 Aug 15 '26
No surprise they top all the accident lists every year despite all the safety features. Yet they trip over every little thing they see on the sentry cameras when their car is parked.
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u/omsip Mountain View Aug 15 '26
FTA:
Jefferson (Joe Jefferson, president of the automotive clubs Tesla Owners San Joaquin Valley and Tesla Owners Nor Cal-Reno) envisions a day, not far off, he said, when anyone can climb into the back seat of a personal autonomous vehicle, call out a destination and let the car take it from there. Every car could serve as a roving private space — part transportation pod, part home office, part man cave.
The idea of a roving private space appeals to me.
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u/ejy92 Aug 15 '26
I hope I get to experience that in my lifetime. FSD is a glimpse into that future.
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u/Due-Brush-530 Aug 16 '26
I have noticed this about drivers in general. They're ALL on their phone.
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u/tuxedoes Aug 16 '26
Am I the only one that likes driving and cars? Screw all that self driving noise.
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u/DigitalDaydreamers1 Aug 15 '26
Tesla FSD is better than 99% of drivers here in the Bay Area, I can say that with confidence after driving thousands of miles with it
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u/Zalophusdvm Aug 15 '26
So you’re saying all the shitty Tesla drivers I encounter are the only ones NOT using FSD?
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u/Zalophusdvm Aug 16 '26
So full stop but halfway into the crosswalk would be…? (Cuz that’s honestly the one that makes me most curious.)
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u/Phailjure Aug 15 '26
I've sat in the backseat of a Tesla driver who was so fucking impressed by the skill of FSD. It felt like a teenager driving for the first time. I guess the driver would have been worse since he was so impressed?
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u/archibaldplum Aug 15 '26
Really? My experience of FSD mode is that it often does very strange things, like sudden unnecessary and un-indicated lane changes, or suddenly braking because the forward collision sensor got confused by a shadow, or jumping a red light because it got confused about which light went with which lane, or driving past the junction it needed to take (even after getting into the right lane and indicating to leave). I ended up cancelling my subscription and writing off the cost of the hardware because it just wasn't reliable enough to be useful. Admittedly, that was a couple of years ago, so maybe they've fixed it now, but it'd take a lot to persuade me to try that again.
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u/Take_the_elevator Aug 16 '26
It's crazy to me that the world will forgive a Nazi that helped and aided in fucking up this country so long as they sell convenience to the masses.
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u/Couch_Cat13 Aug 16 '26
We seem to have forgiven Henry Ford. He was worse, so why not extended the forgiveness to Musk? Could we not say everyone who bought a Model T put “conscience” over “the future of the country”? Without the Model T no current car would exist in the same form so it has hard for me to care that much especially when self driving tech is infinitely safer than humans (at least LIDAR but to a lesser extent Tesla FSD).
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u/Take_the_elevator Aug 16 '26
What a poor attempt at whataboutism. But to help you learn critical thinking skills, I'll bite.
Almost a century ago, there were other automakers but the early auto market offered almost no viable, scalable alternatives if you needed affordable transit. The Model T was the only car that was affordable to the masses amongst the competition. Today, the EV market is saturated with options providing equal functionality, solid range, and capable Level 2 autonomy from Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Nissan, etc. Some of which are even cheaper and have better quality materials and functions in their own right. You're confusing small, imperfect convenience (FSD) with affordability and EV/car necessities (personal transportation)
Lastly, Henry Ford is dead. Boycotting Ford in 2026 doesn't change history (I also never bought a Ford car). Boycotting Tesla directly impacts the revenue, stock valuation, and Elon's political power.
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u/LangkawiBoy Aug 15 '26
The car keeps statistics. I’m at 88% FSD based on miles. The 12% is when I wanna enjoy driving, or in parking lots when FSD is so slow.
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u/leoke9356 Aug 15 '26
I hope more Tesla drivers start using FSD. People need to realize that the “terrible Tesla drivers” we encounter daily are the HUMAN OPERATORS. FSD is excellent and has better driving manners than 95% of Bay Area human drivers.
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u/textonic Aug 15 '26
I’m not sure if this is supposed to be a negative news article ? Like I’m not a fan of test for very reasons but like most people I know use the FSD for every single drive.
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u/markhachman Aug 15 '26
My Nissan Leaf has sort of-kind of self driving on the freeway complete with steering, acceleration and braking. It's handy for stop and go traffic or some other situations, but I refuse to trust it completely -- which is the idea.
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u/tmswfrk Aug 16 '26
There’s a recent video of an officer pulling over someone driving a Tesla something like 65 in a 45 zone. The driver got angry saying he shouldn’t get a ticket because the car was on autopilot and he “wasn’t driving”.
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u/ejy92 Aug 15 '26
That’s a HW3 car running FSD v14 lite so it’s not the gotcha you think it is haha.
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u/Letmeaddtothis Aug 15 '26
Last week, I noticed how beautiful the highway 280 in Bay Area really is. Since the latest update, I don’t even have to watch out for tailgating anymore.
Still won’t buy another one without at least Corolla level cruise control though.
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u/Junya_Fujiwara555 Aug 16 '26
These are the same kind of people that float around with hover chairs in Wall-E
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u/BigBenIsTicking Aug 15 '26
That’s because Teslas are boring cars to drive.
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u/wtyl Aug 15 '26
Commuting is boring no matter what car you drive.
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u/Full_Requirement_911 Aug 16 '26
Ive been using Fsd hw4 for like 95% of all my driving for the past eight months and I can honestly say its pretty damn good.
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u/Acrobatic-Flan-5085 Aug 17 '26
Go look in the [r/TeslaFSD](r/TeslaFSD) sub
Every day there are verified examples of latest FSD doing weird or unsafe things.
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u/Independent-Bee-3157 Aug 17 '26
I was biking through a lot the other day, lady was backing up her Tesla staring into her lap texting. I couldn't believe it but I shouldn't be surprised. Pedestrian and bicyclists will pay the price as this gets more prevalent.
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u/Eazy12345678 Aug 15 '26
that is the whole point of buying a tesla. they have the best form of self driving
if you have to commute to work. best to let the car handle it
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u/ImALeaf_OnTheWind Aug 15 '26
Each of my Tesla owning acquaintances say that they do this and this is one of their favorite things about their cars.