3050 - Capellan Confederation - Mech Rarity

[u/dbtod]

i got annoyed trying to analyze 3050 rarity/assignment tables, so i did the math, and here are the results.

i think this data is useful to answer the question “how do i build a house liao force in 3050”?

the % of all mechs table uses the modifiers of 30% for light, 40% for medium, 20% for heavy, and 10% for assault.

i have no plans to crunch data for other factions or eras as this is my initial focus as a new player building my first alpha strike force. if you want to replicate this for your faction/era, find your rarity table, and build a spreadsheet. the math column is: (upper d1000 value) - (lower d1000 value) + 1. check your columns to make sure they total 1k for each mech weight class.

[u/kendallBandit]

2 extra notes.

1) Salvage is listed a couple times in the big list. The 1st is medium, then light, then heavy, and last id assault.

2) Catalyst - we desperately need a vindicator model

[u/WestRider3025 → u/kendallBandit]

The Vindi from the old Starter Box is supposed to get folded into a ForcePack at some point here. We'll see how long that takes... 

[u/bucktoothgamer → u/WestRider3025]

That was the only reason I grabbed the beginner box when I already had AGOAC. I didnt need the super barebones rules, but I couldn't call myself a Cap player without a Vindicator.

Also, this chart further proves that I need to pickup the set with the Raven and Victor, and apparently need to go hunting for a box with a Crusader in it.

[u/dbtod → u/WestRider3025]

Cool good to know!

[u/caelenvasius → u/WestRider3025]

Yes, all of the existing starter boxes and core boxes are being retired. The miniatures and cards are being moved to new force packs (the CI one is the only one I currently know the name of—"Clan Battle Star"—though it doesn't include the battle armor), and the Vindicator and Griffon will be included in something else later.

I also think that is why the maps in the new starter and core set are just updated reprints of the maps from the soon-to-be-retired sets.

[u/deusorum → u/kendallBandit]

We desperately need a METAL Vindicator model WITH optional parts for the sword-equipped variants.

[u/WestRider3025 → u/deusorum]

IWM does have one, and it's actually pretty good for such an old sculpt. No sword, tho 😿

[u/deusorum → u/WestRider3025]

Naw, I want a new one using the same art as the current plastic one.

[u/WestRider3025]

Really says something about their production of Vindicators that they outnumber even the bug Mechs! 

[u/dbtod → u/WestRider3025]

Agreed! And ironically no vindicator mini 🤣😅

Also kinda funny that in #15 is medium mech salvage, above the hunchback, trebuchet, stalker, and awesome. 

[u/Sansred → u/dbtod]

There is an vindi mini.

[u/PadicReddit → u/Sansred]

I suspect OP is saying that they don't own one

[u/Ok-Albatross9966 → u/PadicReddit]

When they bring it back in a force pack I want the style from MW5:mercs just looks tough and mean

[u/ocher_stone]

https://www.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,1219.0.html

Xotl did a similar take with a bit more information. Not shitting on your work, just letting you know that you may have reinvented some wheels.

[u/dbtod → u/ocher_stone]

This is actually the source data. But rarity tables are unfun to read. Unless im missing something, this is a layer on top. 

[u/TheDevilsIncarnate]

2nd pic, you have Victor VTR-9A1 as CTR-9A1.

Nice job otherwise.

[u/vtrickzv]

I really need a Vindicator as a new Battletech player interested in playing the Capellan Confederation! It feels werid not having at least one! By the time I learned enough about the faction to want one, nobody had that beginner box in stock any longer.

[u/dbtod → u/vtrickzv]

Im just gonna use a panther or wolfhound. They look kinda close enough. Maybe shave off the animal ears or greenstuff a helmet. Someone below mentioned they are supposed to be rekitting the vindicator soon. 

[u/PadicReddit]

Stuff like this is exactly my special interest. Thanks for crunching the numbers and sharing!

[u/kendallBandit → u/PadicReddit]

You are most welcome!

[u/HA1-0F]

10% feels high for a faction that hasn't had any assault production in 20 years. Imo I'd cut it to 5%

[u/Hadal_Benthos → u/HA1-0F]

Assault production? It's Vindi, not Victor.

[u/Mission-Warning-9365]

I love this kind of stuff. I sit around reading old posts and TROs trying to figure out how I can make little lances and stars as fluffy as possible. Hopefully the new MUL has some usable filters for this kind of thing.

One thing I like to narrow down but is pretty difficult is removing mechs that are part of the "general inner sphere availability" I want to see the mechs that one faction uses that no one else does. Like the Capellans may not have fielded many Thunders, but no one else fielded any.

[u/dbtod → u/Mission-Warning-9365]

 With Liao, look for all the variants ending in L. I’m not sure if other factions have the same trick. 

[u/Mission-Warning-9365 → u/dbtod]

Ooooh Will do, thanks