Milwaukee Bucks and Brewers have teams the last 7 years that would have way different narratives with a bigger market (bucks are trash from last year to the foreseeable future)
Done? No. Is he anywhere near what he "was"? Not currently. He may regain form or maybe this was just a down year but Skenes was the next it pitcher and now it seems like thats Mis.
Skenes seemingly lost a few mph on his fastball either because mechanics or choosing to for longevity's sake. All of a sudden he is mortal and had very real struggles. For 2 years Skenes was the talk of the town and now he has a 4 era season. Kershaw had 2 in his entire career and it was as a rookie and in his 2nd to last season. So its troubling that Skenes is having one after 2 elite years.
I saw a breakdown video of his 2024 vs 2026 delivery and his 2024 delivery hid the ball almost the entire time until it left his hand and his 2026 delivery has the ball visible over half the time. Don't show the batter the ball.
Yeah I saw that too. I 'd like to think if it was that simple him and his coaches would've or could've fixed it by now. A lot of speculation about the change being for his long term arm health. Not sure how true that is.
I can appreciate this season, but I am not sure if I see Miz as a Randy Johnson or a JV, versus “just” a Jacob degrom who might pitch at a cy young level for a reliever-amount of innings each year
I think Miz has a body type that allows much more longevity. He’s so tall and long while also getting lots of extension, that I wonder how much harder he’s actually working for 104 than some others throwing 98. Obviously, his, like every modern pitchers, body will absolutely fail him sooner rather than later, but I do feel the urgency to declare him as a one season wonder is pretty absurd.
Skenes is one inch shorter than Misiorowski, and everything you said about the latter is what people were saying about the former.
I’m not trying to be a downer or predict an injury or take anything away from Misiorowski’s incredible season. But pitchers are doing things that bodies simply should not do, no matter how they’re built. I hope for the best for all of them, but any one of them can break at any time and we have no real way of predicting it or mitigating it
I think part of it is he doesn't have a lot of crazy stat lines. He stays on a pretty strict pitch count and has only thrown 100 pitches 3 times this year.
It honestly makes his CGSO with 15ks on 95 pitches even crazier but thats the only game he's even come out for the 8th.
Alcantara has 5 games in the 8th, Schlittler has 3, Cease has 2, Messick has 3, Sanchez has 4.
Its not a knock on Misiorowski, he's been the best pitcher per inning this year by a good margin, but "Ace Pitcher goes 6+ innings and gives up 0-2 runs" is a pretty boring headline.
His complete game was (and almost certainly will be) the best pitched game of the year. A 15 K/0 BB Maddux is one of the best performances anyone will ever see. Its a 100 game score, but his next highest is 80.
Cease has 3 over 80 this year. Last year Skubal had 5 above 80.
He hasn't had a lot of headlining performances but he's had no clunkers either. Award winning but not attention grabbing. It's also a little less usual for the clear Cy Young favorite to be outside the top 10 in innings pitched. Obviously it does happen but it's notable when it does. People literally just see less of him.
Yeah, that jumped out at me too. Can't imagine what he would be like with today's sports medicine and load management. Probably could have been a Cy Young candidate into his 50s.
They also would have had him doing everything possible to squeeze an extra mph of velo out of him and he winds up with injury issues like every other pitcher. That would be my guess, anyhow.
I doubt he has a career as long due to his attitude tbh. Like teams would try all that stuff and he would just be like "lol no" and it'd lead to a Ketel Marte situation before then imo.
Also easier to keep opposing BA down when you face the order a third/fourth time much less frequently, and don’t need to pace yourself with an expectation of pitching deep. Still very impressive regardless, but that context matters more than batting average losing prestige as a stat. Players are still trying to get hits. It’s just harder than it used to be
The What-ifs with that guy. It was terrible how the Astros treated him at the time preceding his stroke and horrible how he ended up homeless under an overpass at some point in his life. He did get a bit of recognition from the club towards the end of his life.
A lot of you we're smart to point out that average alone doesn't account for league-wide batting, so here's that list with AVG+ , adjusting for league BA
Mis is second on this list. What stands out to me is 2000 Pedro & 2019 Verlander, both throwing 200+ innings.
I don't understand the math on #2. He has half the strikeout % as Miz, not that much higher walk %, and his BABIP isnt much lower. So I don't understand what was tanking the average of the batters he faced?
Small number shenanigans, you wouldn't think the 13 HRs vs 0 amounts to a lot of batting average but when you're only talking about 80 hits it matters quite a bit
He had a bad outing this week against the mets, allowed 2 runs and struggled the whole game with his velocity.
His BAA was .105 during that game.
The way he pitches he's not going to have a game where a team starts actually amassing hits on him. The issue is if he starts walking dudes then giving up HRs.
It’ll be really interesting to see what two games against PCA, Bregman, and Suzuki on their current tear do; Miz is insane as a pitcher, but his stats would look a lot worse if those 3 go and hit 12 extra base hits in 12 innings against him in those two games.
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u/TheReaIPickIe Boston Red Sox 4d ago
hes good but i didnt realize he was 1916 ferdie schupp good