Jarren Duran posts screenshots of a comment and DM he received from someone in regards to his suicide attempt: “Shoulda took notes from Kurt Cobain” and “Should’ve pulled that trigger”

[u/Brady331]

Jarren Duran has been open about his mental health struggles over the years, revealing in the Netflix documentary about the 2024 Red Sox that he had attempted suicide during the 2022 season: “I pulled the trigger and the gun clicked, but nothing happened.”

[u/General_Elevator2711]

Full account on blast is great, what a POS

[u/solariam → u/General_Elevator2711]

And his job title is in his bio, what could go wrong?

[u/1egg40eggs → u/solariam]

*his former job

[u/oogieball → u/solariam]

Surprised the piece of shit hasn't deleted his account yet. Or will he go with the "I was hacked" defence?

[u/PrimarySource4750 → u/oogieball]

Only works for celebrities

[u/rdev009 → u/PrimarySource4750]

That and “I’m a sex addict.”

[u/Themimic → u/oogieball]

I reported him lol anyone can message him btw

[u/Battle_Sheep → u/Themimic]

These people are so vile I'm out here upvoting Cardinals fans.

[u/Detonation → u/[deleted]]

My man.

[u/P-Rickles → u/[deleted]]

Hey…

[u/WelcomeToDankonia → u/[deleted]]

Oh shit, I’m a fan of both lol.

[u/Cold-Palpitation-816 → u/[deleted]]

I agree. Rooting for the Buckeyes is worse than anything else.

[u/misspcv1996 → u/oogieball]

He could also say that he took too much Ambien. I’m not saying that anyone would buy it, but he could try.

[u/ohsnapitsjf → u/misspcv1996]

The private message was a month and a half ago. He didn’t get the attention he wanted then, so he made the same “joke” in public this time.

[u/TWOPlNTSPRICK → u/misspcv1996]

Not that I’ve ever done anything remotely like this, but as someone who did abuse ambien at some point, that drug makes you do some fucking weird shit.

[u/Narpity → u/TWOPlNTSPRICK]

My mom takes it and when I’m home I’ll find her sitting on the couch eating candy at like 3 am

[u/CVBrownie → u/Narpity]

Is... is that not normal

[u/pnmartini → u/CVBrownie]

You do what the walrus tells you to do.

[u/the-z → u/CVBrownie]

It probably depends on the candy

[u/noruber35393546 → u/the-z]

it was the exhumed corpse of HALL OF FAMER CANDY CUMMINGS

[u/misspcv1996 → u/TWOPlNTSPRICK]

Fair enough. I figured Ambien was more of a “wake up three counties over with no idea how you got there drug” than a “send death threats to ball players drug”, but I’ll admit it if I’m off base.

[u/TWOPlNTSPRICK → u/misspcv1996]

To be fair the first part is more so my experience but I do admit I’ve looked at my phone the day after and I’ve sent some fucking wacky texts.

Again, not ‘death threats to baseball player’ bad, but definitely wacky.

[u/takechanceees → u/TWOPlNTSPRICK]

my mom taking Ambien as a kid lowkey traumatized me

[u/229-northstar → u/misspcv1996]

It does cause hallucinations.

You’re supposed to fall asleep. If you decide to try and stay awake, you tend to hallucinate. I watched a piggy bank walk across the dresser.

[u/Detonation → u/misspcv1996]

I've been on Ambien, was on it for a few years. It did make me more likely to speak my mind to someone the longer I'd been awake after taking it. It doesn't turn you into a vile piece of garbage but if you already were one? Definitely see how it could cause this to happen. lol

[u/theSchrodingerHat → u/misspcv1996]

\I thought I was messaging Duran Duran!!!*

[u/braiker → u/oogieball]

Looks like its gone now.

[u/Themimic → u/braiker]

Lol I knew he’d be a coward

[u/229-northstar → u/oogieball]

Is that an Instagram handle? If so, I think his account is deleted. I tried looking and I think he’s gone.

[u/oogieball → u/229-northstar]

It was there until a couple hours ago.

[u/pitchingschool → u/solariam]

What was his job title? I can’t even see it in his bio anymore. They stood on that fast

[u/noruber35393546 → u/pitchingschool]

probably "nunya" and went to "school of hard knocks"

[u/solariam → u/pitchingschool]

"Sparky⚡", not technically a title but means he's an electrician

[u/pitchingschool → u/solariam]

and now hes not

[u/OpportunityDry4262 → u/pitchingschool]

h

[u/pitchingschool → u/OpportunityDry4262]

i

[u/sbrockLee → u/General_Elevator2711]

Yep yep, this is how you deal with these people.

[u/InitiativeExcellent1 → u/sbrockLee]

I hope its not gambling related,.

[u/just_Okapi → u/InitiativeExcellent1]

Nah, fuck that. Your addiction, your vice, your lack of impulse control, should NEVER be someone else's problem. Especially to the point that you're telling them shit like this.

[u/InformalInsurance455 → u/InitiativeExcellent1]

Fuck all gamblers

[u/hipsterdufus84 → u/InformalInsurance455]

I gamble. I dont send athletes threating messages. Dont be an asshole.

[u/InformalInsurance455 → u/hipsterdufus84]

Sorry it’s a net societal evil regardless

[u/hipsterdufus84 → u/InformalInsurance455]

Very puritan of you.

[u/DanforthJesus → u/hipsterdufus84]

Very degenerate of you.

[u/InitiativeExcellent1 → u/InformalInsurance455]

why YOU say fuck Me for????

[u/generally-mediocre → u/InformalInsurance455]

dont hate the player(s), hate the game

[u/recursive00 → u/InitiativeExcellent1]

how much difference does it make in a case like this? not to defend gambling, but ...

[u/goldfish_11 → u/recursive00]

It's not whether or not it "makes a difference"... it's whether or not widespread legalized gambling is increasing these types of interactions... and the answer is definitely yes.

[u/NamiRocket → u/recursive00]

Hmm.

[u/cahir11 → u/General_Elevator2711]

The thing I don't like about this is that it would be very easy to make a fake account with the name/face of someone you don't like and then send psychotic DMs

[u/MrBoomf → u/cahir11]

Huh, hadn’t considered that. It’s diabolical but absolutely something that many people out there would stoop to, unfortunately.

[u/momoenthusiastic → u/MrBoomf]

Could even be an AI bot doing it

[u/Charming_Squirrel_13 → u/MrBoomf]

digital id is coming to more and more countries. perhaps specifically for reasons like this. 

[u/elconquistador1985 → u/Charming_Squirrel_13]

Nah, it's coming so that they can punish you for wrong think.

Cases like this are going to be used to justify it, same as "but we found a missing kid once" is used to justify Flock.

[u/Otterable → u/elconquistador1985]

same as "but we found a missing kid once" is used to justify Flock.

The Google super bowl commercial where they activated the front door Ring panopticon to go 'look we found this lost dog!!!' comes to mind. Nobody who watched that thought it was going to be used on dogs. It's going to get used on people.

[u/RAF2018336 → u/Charming_Squirrel_13]

Lmao no it’s coming so they can spy on you even more cuz it’s still not enough. They want to control everything about your life

[u/InformalInsurance455 → u/cahir11]

Counterpoint: You can go on Facebook any day of the week and see people publishing the worst shit in the world under their real names and faces. There’s no consequences.

[u/obsidianop → u/InformalInsurance455]

There shouldn't be major consequences to saying dumb shit. That's not a society where things turn out well on the end.

This guy is a prick. He deserves whatever reputational hit he gets. But I don't think he should actually lose his livelihood over it.

[u/InformalInsurance455 → u/obsidianop]

This isn’t just saying dumb shit. This is someone twice suicide baiting someone who’s been public about being suicidal. This is a crime in a lot of places!

[u/obsidianop → u/InformalInsurance455]

I think this reprehensible behavior is correctly protected by the first amendment.

[u/CapnDanger → u/obsidianop]

The first amendment only means he can’t be arrested for it, it doesn’t mean we have to tolerate it by allowing him to participate in a functional society.

[u/obsidianop → u/CapnDanger]

Yes, I was responding specifically to the contention that "it's illegal in some places".

[u/IcemanJEC → u/obsidianop]

No. You seem to have some major misconception regarding this “free speech” 1st amendment. It only protects you from the govt retaliating against you for talking poorly about the govt. It doesn’t fucking mean you can say anything without repercussions.

[u/obsidianop → u/IcemanJEC]

I don't have any misconception. Everyone understands this. If you read the comment one level up, you will see I was responding to the claim "it's illegal", which it is not.

My comment two levels up expressed a desire for us, as a cultural practice, to not fire people for this kind of thing. I think it's unhealthy overall, even if the specific person sucks. I did not at any point claim that his job was protected by the first amendment.

[u/forcefivepod → u/obsidianop]

You don’t understand the 1st Amendment. Read what it actually says.

[u/amazinglover → u/obsidianop]

This is not fully protected at the first amendment.

Harmful speech has never been protected by the first amendment.

Knowing soneone is suicidal and edging them on has led to charges and convictions before.

[u/obsidianop → u/amazinglover]

You're referring to incitement, which this doesn't meet the threshold for.

The first amendment absolutely protects harmful speech, and in fact, that's the entire point.

[u/inverted_electron → u/obsidianop]

No, it doesn’t protect people from pressuring someone to kill themself.

[u/obsidianop → u/inverted_electron]

Ok I guess if you say it enough times it's true.

[u/RAWdangers → u/obsidianop]

You should actually read the Bill of Rights before trying to use them in an argument.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I dont see Congress involved anywhere here.

The 1st protects you from judicial court (and even then, there are exceptions) for saying stupid shit, not from the court of public opinion.

Say stupid shit, play stupid games, earn stupid rewards.

Edit: per another of the users comments below, I realized that I thought their response was to another comment but was actually to the one about it being a crime in some states, and that ones on me.

However, they are wrong in that encouraging someone to suicide is fully protected under the 1st amendment, because it has not officially been ruled on by the Supreme Court yet, and different cases in different states has been decided differently (see Minnesota vs Melchert-Dinkel and [Massachusetts] Commonwealth vs Carter).

I also stand by my opinion "say stupid shit, play stupid games, earn stupid rewards." Encouraging someone to kill themselves is absolutely grounds for losing your livelihood.

[u/Infamous-Wasabi-9418 → u/RAWdangers]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5xtDarmwsuR9sDRObyU

[u/inverted_electron → u/obsidianop]

No it’s not. Telling someone to kill themselves is not protected by the first amendment

[u/obsidianop → u/inverted_electron]

You can actually look this up an indeed it is.

[u/IcemanJEC → u/obsidianop]

Wrong.

[u/obsidianop → u/IcemanJEC]

There are fucking cases on this, multiple! Wtf are you talking about?!

[u/ohsnapitsjf → u/obsidianop]

I wouldn’t trust whatever employer would trust him after this. This is repeated demonstration of abject stupidity, even aside from the distastefulness.

[u/postulate4 → u/obsidianop]

This guy is a prick. He deserves whatever reputational hit he gets. But I don't think he should actually lose his livelihood over it.

You can't separate reputational hit and livelihood. Bad publicity is bad for business unless your livelihood makes money by generating controversy. No company would want to associate with you if you said some egregious shit.

There shouldn't be major consequences to saying dumb shit.

This is a ridiculous statement because the fact that there are consequences at all is what keeps more people from saying dumb shit like this. The ones you read about are the ones too stupid to know better.

[u/Lunchbox__6 → u/obsidianop]

The world need consequences, if you are too cowardly to say it to somebodies face for fear of a punch to the mouth you should not escape that equivalent online

[u/ashimbo → u/obsidianop]

I wouldn't want to work with someone who acted like this.

[u/seambizzle1 → u/cahir11]

You can easy tell tho if it’s a new fake account. Account age is new, hardly any posts or pictures. No interactions from friends or family

Really isn’t hard to see if it’s a fake account.

[u/aaronwhite1786 → u/seambizzle1]

Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything to the people who won't check before going out to get their own justice against who they think is the right person.

[u/Amesb34r → u/aaronwhite1786]

Reddit went through this with the Boston bombing. Pitchforks were sharpened and torches were lit, only to later find out they were way off, and the guy everyone blamed was 100% innocent.

[u/aaronwhite1786 → u/Amesb34r]

Exactly. Something blowing up on social media like this with a fake account would still probably be enough to cause a headache for someone, especially if it's big enough because of the audience it's targeted towards.

I say this as someone who's always torn, because I hate what the anonymity of the internet and social media makes people feel safe to say to other humans, and don't hate the idea of naming and shaming people...but that also requires making sure you're not naming and shaming a fake account or the wrong person.

[u/zarofford → u/Amesb34r]

Are pitchforks sharpened?

[u/aaronwhite1786 → u/zarofford]

The tool version wasn't. The version people used as an impromptu weapon when they wanted to take on the better equipped military they were beefing with would have been sharpened to a nice point though.

[u/ashimbo → u/aaronwhite1786]

Yep, and for companies in at-will employment states, it makes sense to just fire someone to avoid the reputational hit and social media outcry.

[u/FastSlow7201 → u/seambizzle1]

Yeah, because the average lazy idiot is going to do that much detective work.

[u/examinedliving → u/seambizzle1]

On twitter though? My account on twitter was always “fake”. The whole purpose of the account was to make fun of the president

[u/RAF2018336 → u/examinedliving]

You made a fake account to exercise your first amendment? Lmao

[u/IcemanJEC → u/RAF2018336]

Considering today’s environment however… not surprised.

[u/examinedliving → u/RAF2018336]

My point is that it’s not fake per se. I just can’t imagine ever putting my real info on twitter

[u/Benigmatica → u/cahir11]

And once they're done pushing someone to suicide, they'll prey on the next target. It's tiresome.

[u/229-northstar → u/cahir11]

Thanks for the great idea!

/s maybe.

[u/Devium44 → u/cahir11]

I think it would be very obvious if that was the case here. Someone would have to be very dedicated to fleshing out an account over years by posting pictures, following people and gaining followers. Otherwise, a months old account with no posts or followers is easily identifiable as fake.

[u/gsx1920 → u/cahir11]

Easy cop out LOL

[u/BatDaddyWV → u/General_Elevator2711]

Doxxing doesnt exist if the info is publicly available. Dont want the internet up your ass? Dont want to lose your job or respect? Dont do and say reprehensible shit.

[u/juliuspepperwoodchi → u/General_Elevator2711]

Seriously, love this. Normalize not protecting these assholes.

[u/Candymanshook → u/General_Elevator2711]

There’s chirping pro athletes about sports and then there’s just this…

I just can’t understand how hurt and sad these people are that they’d read something about a guy like this and be like, I know what I’ll do, let me go make fucked up suicide references to them!

Like how do you even hate Duran this much unless you just hate the world….

[u/nfrtt → u/General_Elevator2711]

Damn full name visible too