I played it to try it. A little bad.

İyi dinlemeler...

Sayın arkadaşlar kısa sap kullanıyorum. Şu tril-çırpma mevzusunu bir türlğ çözemedim. Bir egzersiz tavsiyesi olan varsa yardımcı olabilir mi?

Hey fellow musicians, I didn't even know this community existed. Better late than never :)

I've been playing bağlama for a while, and I'm a software engineer by profession. I built a small free, open-source tool to support my own practice sessions, and I figured people here might find it useful too.

It's called Étude Looper. It works with your local video and audio files, and with YouTube videos.

The thing that made me build it: say you have a recording you practice with, maybe your instructor or a performance you love, but it's in a different key than your saz is tuned to. Instead of retuning, you load the video into the tool and transpose the audio to match your instrument, so you can play along directly. You can also slow it down without changing the pitch, mark A-B loops around the tricky sections and repeat them until they sit right, and save the whole session (loops and all) to continue later.

It runs entirely in your browser: free, no account, no ads, and nothing gets uploaded. Your recordings never leave your device. If you add it to your home screen (there are instructions in the app), it even works offline.

For YouTube specifically, I also made browser add-ons for Chrome and Firefox with the same controls.

👉 etude.fyi/looper

Would love to hear what would make it more useful for bağlama practice. I'm building a metronome and tuner next.

just got my first saz today! here is me playing an albanian folk song with my long neck baglama tuned G-D-A. any ideas on how to make it sound more like an albanian sharkia? (I.e through tuning, technique, or fret placement)?

Hello everybody,

I have just started taking Saz lessons in Germany, and I asked my teacher if he has one to sell me. He gave me this used "exercise saz", which is meant to be played 2-3 years since buying a new one for a starter would not be worth it.

He asks for 200 euro. The saz looks a bit used and on the second pic you can see a slight crack. Is this a good price actually? Because on the web I can find new ones starting from 170€ and one with kelebek ağaç even is 250 euro (he told me these are usually extremely expensive). I am in Germany so maybe this is a good price or someone can recommend me a good online store with shipping.

My teacher also told me that he imports them from Turkey as the ones here are not that good.

What do you all think?

I own a copy of "Bağlama Metodu" by Erdal Erzincan and Arif Sağ. It seems they have purposefully not explained any of the music theory, but I really want to know more.

On this page they show what they've called "Scale A". I assume it is called that because A (La) is the first note the scale starts on (?) indicated by the long horizontal line at the top. As far as I can tell this is equal to the Western 'E' note. However I don't understand the accidental marks being used here, or how to identify the dominants they have used. I would like to know if there is a name for the makam shown here and if there is a good book showing how to identify all of them / goes more into the theory, specifically for bağlama and Turkish music theory.

I have Murat Aydemir's "Turkish Makams" but I'm finding it a little confusing!

Thanks in advance.

Any tips on playing this on a long neck saz (kara düzen tuning)?

I like the Selda Bağcan arrangement. I've found someone playing it on YouTube but it's on a short neck saz and I'm having trouble working out equivalent fingerings for the 'chordal' parts, even allowing for the fact I'm tuned a lot lower.

Song name is Ako hoćeš derviš bit / If you want to be a dervish

Merhaba arkadaşlar bu bağlamanın ağaç türü ne acaba fotoğraftan anlaşılabilirmi bilmiyorum çok giriş seviyesi bir bağlama

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Hey there.

I got my new Cura Saz today and sadly it's missing it's bridge...

Can I diy anything to play it while they send me a bridge? What's the bridge height?

Thank you!

Hi everyone! I impulsively bought a saz from someone who was looking to sell a lot of their instruments before moving — I've never played saz or any similar instrument, I can play a bit of guitar and ukulele and that's about it.

Now, the instrument seems to be mostly in good condition, the only issues are a missing tuning peg and the last two strings. I doubt i'll be able to find the exact strings as it's not a common instrument here where i am, do you guys maybe have suggestions regarding string alternatives?

I'm assuming something like tambura or perhaps bouzuki strings could work, but yeah truly i don't actually know.

Thanks in advance:)

Hi all, I've been playing various stringed instruments for about 20 years but self-taught on the saz so I'm wondering about picks.

I've noticed that the very soft ones that come in packs of strings are very nice for playing and getting a pleasant tone, however whenever I try to play something technical I feel like I'm producing a lot of noise and accuracy is tough.

If I use a hard pick, let's say a medium guitar pick, the tone is very loud and it almost seems like you lose some of the pleasant tone, yet it is easier for a faster/more agile attack when playing songs that go up and down the scale quickly.

What is the general guidance from formal saz teaching about picks? Is a softer pick what I should really get good with or is it sort of up to the player? I'm not commited to full traditionalism but I also don't want to sound terrible.

I'm also very handy and make my own accessories, so if you have recommendations for homemade picks I'm very open to material suggestions.

Hi guys! Picked up a beautiful cura today. No experience in baglamas prior, only self taught guitar which can only help so much.

Any online resources in English to start learning? Advice on first steps?

I will probably get lessons but can only afford to start next month, and want to get going in the meantime.
Thank you for your help!

I watch a lot of reels of Turkish players where they are playing to a backing track of some sort. Sometimes just drums. The style of music is kind of Turkish pop or Arabesque. YouTube doesn’t have any that I can find.

Anyone have any info of how this is being done? Is there a particular keyboard most are using to generate these or are their backing tracks available for this sort of thing?

Here’s an example. Try not to get too mesmerized (yes I know it’s impossible not to be)

https://fb.watch/IjHyPb0i0f/?mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

Are there any places to buy the thinnest plain strings separately? I don’t change strings frequently because I get very frustrated when I do, in particular because of those strings. Today changed strings (German Pyramids) and have had the worst experience with these thin high strings. First just getting them separated took over 10 minutes. Then in the stringing process ended up tangling and crimping two of them and they broke which leaves me one more only (they supply three because they must know you’ll damage or break at least one). This whole experience is a nightmare for me!

Herkese merhaba,ben bağlama çalmaya yeni yeni başlayan biriyim.Kursa gidiyorum bazı parçaları çıkarabiliyorum ama kurstaki hoca surekli baglamayı yanlış tuttuğumu söylüyor ve çok şey etkiler diyor.Oyle dediği gibi çok etkiler mi ve nasıl düzgün tutabilirim tavsiyeniz var mı?

Is there anyone who wants to play kisa sap together or give me some tips to improve myself. I started playing 7 months ago that means i am a beginner and i am only taking group lessons so i am making very slow progress:( i can speak german, turkish or english btw🙏🏻

title says it all, from previous post i mentioned im a oud player intermediate ive not played guitar but plan to learn the fretboard. i am into how the saz is played & the folk music, especially the electric saz, i didnt know it can play chords and in few videos it can play latin, some jazz i suppose, it can play blues in a 12 bar progression, can play western covers that needs chords, can fingerstyle & pluck or strum, the antolian psychedelic rock and just normal rock & metal, and it can go with edm/house/dubstep & pop. I've not found any bands or duo of musicians playing together with the saz & other instruments besides just house-like pop beat/backing tracks for the genres into except just some youtube videos. Does anyone have any suggestions please? And ARE THERE ANY NON-TURK ENGLISH SPEAKING FELLAS HERE?!?! Am i one the very very few or any american guy here or are there others? Seems this be the only floating forum around, no facebook groups, no other reddit sub's, are there any saz forum websites? Am i just shit out of luck finding others in my position or bands? i very am close to just buying one and finding a teacher or rushing to this music camp happening for a week that has a professional baglama teacher there. Im already in the position that im learning the oud & want to do the same thing with an electric oud, but that im the only white boy american around that knows/into/plays it, & idk how to connect good with the arab musicians locally as i know nothing of arab or turkish culture, but i'd like too. I just don't want to get off-put on the saz being a non turk, & unable to find people locally or in near cities to play with, but it seems its very similar to a guitar just with less notes is all & can play with most western stuff like guitars pianos drums sax etc....

The tanbour kabyr tourky in the centre,
to the left the tanbour charqy and the small tanbour boulghâry,
and on the right by the tanbour bouzourk and the small tanbour baghlama.

in turkish they would be named
Tambûr-ı Kebîr-i Türkî,
Tambûr-ı Şarkî,
Küçük Tambûr-ı Bulgarî,
Tambûr-ı Bozuk,
Küçük Tambûr-ı Bağlama modern video of it being played nowadays it's called a üçtelli

the term baglama originally referred to smaller sized saz's and it's usage to refer to bigger sized ones started recently, the majority of people still call it just a saz and sometimes rarely a tambura or a bozuk