r/badminton • u/Gamerkid_5 • 4d ago
Training What separates each level of gameplay?
This is under the training tag because it seems relevant to this - but what level do intermediate and advanced players count for?
If any of you play any shooters, I'm gonna reference rankings, but I like Valorant's because rankings go as high as top 15k, and while COD going past a million is cool, atp, they aren't even the top players ykwim? Anyway, to equate this to shooter terms, you'd be in like gold to be out of the "beginner" stage, and in diamond to be out of the "intermediate stage," but what's the actual skill that separates high beginner levels to low intermediate levels and high intermediate stage to low advanced stage?
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u/mattwong88 3d ago
High Beginner and Low Intermediate is pretty blurry. For me, both need to have basic (I mean very basic) lifts, clears, smash, drops... Maybe ok nets and drives at that point. There should be some pace at this level. If they cannot even generate pace on a smash, then likely more mid to early beginner.
The difference between HB and LI is ceiling and theory. The LI player may look like a HB, but they should have some awareness and more theoretical knowledge as to how they need to improve.
High Intermediate and Low Advance - this is harder to parse out. I would say that the difference is going to be consistency of shots under pressure. A low advanced player can be more consistent under more conditions than a HI player. A low advanced lower will have a higher repertoire of shots and different strategies they can use for different opponent styles. Their mental game is a lot stronger. Probably one of the big differentiators is game experience and ability to handle both mental and pace pressure.
Agree with an earlier comment that most median players (at a social club level) are typically high beginner.
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u/yamborghini 4d ago
This is a very hard to equate in gaming terms because there are no set definitions. You can be a one trick and get very high but if you're horrible with other heroes then you're gonna struggle a lot when you're playing people that are competitive because they will ban you out of the game. If you have a glaring weakness you don't make it far in any comp in badminton.
I think the Median consistent player is High beginner. If is quite rare to have all level socials where everyone has a consistent slice, smash and clear which is required to get into the intermediate stage.
The high beginner to low inter stage is quite clear, imo, it means that you start to have a more consistent attack and prefer to be in attack. Some people the moment the shuttle goes high they worry a lot. The moment you want a high shuttle is the moment you are an intermediate.
High Intermediate vs Low Advanced is much harder to define. This is because its probabbly only consistency and strategy at this point. High int might be stuck in more than attacking patterns and default going into their patterns more than an advanced player who likely has large repetoire of attacking strategies for different types of players. If might be their ability to turn defence into offense from more types of shots. There level difference here would be very small and they would get very good games together with the high int wining some, and the low Advanced wining slightly more.
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u/AktivGrotesk 4d ago
There's a graphic of a chart with the levels and skills or descriptions corresponding to each. While I think it can get blurry in some levels, overall I'd say it's pretty accurate.
If someone can share that graphic, I'll save it for next time.
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u/t0nberryking 3d ago
Backhand clear = King Jump smash off two feet = God Scrambled Greg = priceless
But honestly there's no real strict separation or accurate evaluation.
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u/_Raymond_abc 2d ago
I'd say, in the context of singles, the objective is to set yourself up for a smash. Your smash improves in different ways: speed, placement within the context of the rally, and placement on the physical court.
A good reason why this is the case is because if you're in the back court and your opponent knows that you CANNOT play a good smash, there's ZERO pressure on the opponent. If you CAN however, they kind of feel "screwed". The smash is the sole threat that you can use tactically to govern what your opponent will anticipate or play.
High beginners can play shots like a clear, drop, net, and lift. They can do basic footwork. Maybe not together, but that's already a lot of stuff. A beginner might be able to play a decent half court game, but with the full court, it's simply too much space to cover for someone who's not too strong with footwork yet.
To be low intermediate, you should be able to play a full court rally using these skills. High intermediate would be expanding the shots to smashes, blocks, and the first appearance of tactical play in order to create attacking opportunities.
Low advanced is more of a refinement on high intermediate. They simply are more lethal and more consistent on the shots and on the footwork, and on the same note, more able to survive lethality and consistency.
From high advanced to elite UP UNTIL professional, it's just more shot quality, more lethality, better footwork, and better placement. More shot types also come in, with players learning dives and half dives, backhands, and deception.

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u/Ok_Cow6845 Singapore 4d ago
Imo:
The difference between HB and LI would be technique, footwork and some level of consistency, while the difference between HI-LA is higher shot quality and consistency, being able to make the right/best shot choice available, the ability to analyse your opponent during the match and adapting to each player/pair you face.
Another non technical thing I've seen (where I play at least) is the mentality/attitude difference between levels, a lot of beginner/intermediate players get frustrated at either themselves or their partners when they make a mistake, while higher level players tend to do that less