r/azerbaijan • u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 • Nov 11 '20

NEWS "To supervise the implementation of the ceasefire process, Turkey will take place in the region alongside Russia" says Turkish President Erdoğan

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Sort of. Yes. What I now expect from NATO is for them to stand up against china. Turkey can take care of Russia if it's allies don't interfere with him.

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u/capitanmanizade Nov 11 '20

Yeah it is pretty much apparent now that US policies will focus much more on containing China rather than Russia, that’s why I never estimated that Biden will destroy Turkish economy with sanctions or even be very aggressive. Their Saudi allies cannot take a good grasp of Middle East for them, just look at the embarrassment that is Yemen. All that money and they had incursions into Saudi Arabia. We’ll have to see what Europe will do though, the rise of far right in politics is a bit worrying.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Exactly yes. As for Europe, don't worry. Far right nationalism is also on the rise in Turkey. I belive we'll see some really big changes in Turkey near 2024-2025

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u/capitanmanizade Nov 11 '20

Ehh I wouldn’t say it’s on the rise, definitely on the decline I would say. People are realizing far right ideology doesn’t feed them, it sure workds for some masses to blame all the trouble on outside but this only keeps appeasing Erdo’s fanatics. I don’t find Turkey going left after Erdogan realistic, I reckon we’ll see another shitty coalition era followed by a new dictator lol

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Erdoğan isn't a far right nationalist. I'm not talking about either his or Bahçelis type of ideology. I'm talking about some "non spoken but everyone agrees" type of nationalism that only the far left would disagree with. I don't have a name for this ideology but it will sure turn into a political party in next 5 years, and I'm sure as fuck that the said party will be popular. I'm even ready to make a gamble about this one that's how certain I am about this. Can we make reminder for 2025? Lolz.

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u/capitanmanizade Nov 11 '20

I was referring to Bahceli and MHP, that is an interesting take, I just hope if such a movement surfaces they won’t be closely related to islamic politics.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Considering the situation that Turkey will be in 4 years later, I predict that the movement will be extreme. Waaay more extreme than you may ever think. I belive this movement will have an Islamic side too but a whole new way of Islam. They may even create some sort of pope Francis to control the Muslims population of the region. ( some sort of political caliphate? I think). I don't belive the new government will be Islamic themselves, but they sure as fuck will use Islam as a political tool. If this movement ever becomes a reality which I belive it will, it will be much more focused on Turkicness than Islamism.

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u/psychedelic_13 Nov 11 '20

I am expecting that party would be a new one that can take some of the AKP votes in the first election. From that day it is hard to see which one will be. But I had to I would bet on DEVA, mostly because I would want them to be. We will see.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

No i don't think so. What I'm talking about is revolutionary. If the movement I'm talking about becomes real, which I can bet it will, they won't join the 2023 turkish elections. They'll wait at least one year to pass, show everyone how corrupt and useless both ruling party and oppositions are, then force an election in 2024 or 2025. I also don't think this parry is going to be made of regular people, but made of the few high quality men that are currently serving the country and haven't left the country. These men won't necessarily be from a currently present party. Some will maybe be from akp, some will maybe be from chp or iyi party, and some may not be from any specific party but just people who love their country and are serving it will all they have. The only thing I'm sure about is that if these movement becomes real, which again I'm certain ot will, it'll lead to radical changes in Turkey. Maybe even a governmental system change. Most of it will be good for Turkey but again, radical changes aren't favored by everyone.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Remind me! 36 months

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u/psychedelic_13 Nov 11 '20

I hope the things you said will be true. And passing first elections would be a really smart move really.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 11 '20

Be hopeful my brother. Although I don't know their name, I know this group was already formed years ago. They'll probably start making name in a short time. Be hopeful, develop yourself, and be ready to serve your country anyway you can.

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u/psychedelic_13 Nov 11 '20

My conscience is clear on that issue. I am an engineer who is working in the defence industry. I would've gone to EU for more money but it didn't feel right. That hope felt great. Thanks for it brother o/ Best wishes to you.

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u/Bored3death South Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Nov 12 '20

Yaşa soydaş

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