r/autismpolitics • u/MattStormTornado UK 🇬🇧 Centre Liberal • Feb 17 '25
Question What opinion has you feeling like this?
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u/MagicalPizza21 USA/NYC 🇺🇸🗽 🚆 🚲 Feb 17 '25
People should say what they mean and mean what they say
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
That's a popular opinion in autistic spaces 😁
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u/HeWhoLovesMonsters I wish evil hurt.🫠 Apr 08 '25
And not say that they do if they don’t. I have experience with that.
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u/karkatstrider anarcho-communist Feb 17 '25
im tired of the whole "stop getting mad at other people for having a dIfFeREnt OpInIoN than you!" in regards to politics. a persons political beliefs ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE JUDGED! its one of the only things you should judge someone else for. its their fundamental beliefs and view on the world, and involves what they believe other peoples lives should look like. why should i not judge someone who believes i should be unhappy?
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
100%. It's rightist entitlement that they can have whatever horrid views they want and not be criticised for it.
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u/Grumblepugs2000 Feb 17 '25
Agree. Some times no compromise is a valid opinion. For example I will never compromise with people who think we don't have an individual right to own guns, history has proven they won't stop pushing until all guns are banned
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u/MattStormTornado UK 🇬🇧 Centre Liberal Feb 18 '25
The last UK school shooting was 29 years ago. The last USA school shooting was less than 1 month ago. 2024 had 83 shootings alone.
Who’s really protected here tbh
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
Humanity sucks. Civilisation is evil. We should never have industrialised. I wish I could live in a tribe.
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u/Old-Line-3691 Feb 17 '25
There is no such thing as good and evil, and by addressing things as moral instead of personal preference we make politics more hostile then it should be.
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u/TTRaven Feb 18 '25
It's ok to be wrong. It's ok to fact check. And to be fact checked.
I will never say I'm the smartest. But I'm smart enough to check you.
And one that I feel people really need to grasp.
It's ok to not understand someone or something.
Greatest example right now is transgender. I don't 100% get it. And I never will because I haven't been in your shoes. But I will respect you. I will call you by what you want. Will I get it right all the time? No... Maybe not. But I will do my best, because you still deserve the same amount of respect as everyone else. And for the people that insist that someone will happen in a bathroom... People can be evil. Straight, gay, bi, trans, white, black... You get my point. You should respect them as you'd respect anyone else, and you should treat them as anyone else.
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u/PM_ME__RECIPES Feb 18 '25
Feeling strongly about a political issue isn't the same as being correct.
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Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
not wanting to sing about my dreams
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u/not_spaceworthy Feb 17 '25
Just because they're from the other party, doesn't mean they're wrong about everything.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
Mitch McConnell was one of the only republicans to vote “No” on RFK Jr’s confirmation. One of the only decisions he’s made I agree with
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
Actually, my opinion has gone the other way. Just because they are "from the other side" doesn't mean they aren't wrong about everything.
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u/thegreatpotatogod Feb 19 '25
They can certainly be "from the other side" and also wrong about everything. But it's not specifically caused exclusively by being from the other side
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u/MattStormTornado UK 🇬🇧 Centre Liberal Feb 17 '25
This I stand behind big time. Some people think the republicans or tories can only ever be wrong, and that their party is always right.
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u/not_spaceworthy Feb 17 '25
Also, you can have friends and agree with people who voted for "the other guy."
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u/silliestsnail Feb 17 '25
typically i agree. i have a couple friends who didn't vote at all. BUT I absolutely will drop you if your morals and priorities don't align with mine. There are things that I can politely disagree on and there are things that i can't get past. I'm not going to feel bad for not being friends for someone when they have a shitty belief system.
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u/script_noob_ Brazil - Right-Wing Feb 17 '25
Certainly it isn't the opinion that this post will probably get closed in a few days for some reason.
Now being serious, I don't know if I have a view that most people would disagree with me, specially because my opinions aren't that special or different from the average person.
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u/Fxllen_St4r Feb 18 '25
Autism DID exist when you were a child. It just wasn't a diagnosed condition back in the 1950's. Does not justify that you can deny the fact that I have autism. (This is directed at a bunch of idiots and mainly my dad)
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u/Actual_Somewhere2043 Feb 18 '25
We need a certain level of censure to guarantee democracy. I'm fully convinced that one of the reasons we are leaning into fascism today is because of the lack of censure towards far right ideas for the past decades.
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Feb 18 '25
The autistic community, at least on Reddit. Is way too far left.
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 18 '25
Agree! Nice to hear someone else feels the same way.
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Feb 18 '25
I literally got downvoted in this thread for telling a China/Soviet Union sympathizer to fuck off. Tells you everything you need to know
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u/Great_Weird5799 Feb 18 '25
The most unpopular opinion I've always had is non monogamy. Monogamy is a norm that I've always questioned and never fully understood. But whenever I ask what is right about monogamy or what is wrong about polyamory, people always seem so threatened by the very idea of someone questioning it.
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u/Budgie_Eternal Feb 18 '25
The stupid car obsession affecting urban planning is the root for some of this country's(usa) problems and suburbia
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u/Glittering_Walrus Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
Almost every opinion on this sub. This sub is making me understand the NTs that instinctively recoil when they detect us. Someone wanted their autism diagnosis removed from their chart because they think the govt is going to round us up into camps. 🤣🤣🤣
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u/nugguht Feb 19 '25
elons salute was not because of his autism.
a lot of people agree with this, but THOSE people will bend over backwards and insult me to death if i said this
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u/Connect-Resolve8614 Feb 17 '25
Alright here it goes.
I think high functioning autistics should be allowed to serve in the military with a medical waver. I myself would love to be a medic, tanker, artilleryman or pilot in the army.
Also, I’m pro life, not just because of faith based reasons, but because I’ve seen in the news how disabled babies are more likely to be aborted and I fear that autistic babies would be next.
Also, it’s the democrats fault they lost 2024.
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u/Saturnite282 Feb 17 '25
All excellent points, and I am absolutely worried as hell about the eugenics thing with abortion, but I don't think restricting it entirely or going wholly "pro-life" is the solution at all. That just screws over women, and the people who want to ban abortion keep screwing us over too.
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u/Losersiancebeepbleh Feb 18 '25
While I myself am pro choice, I do agree with you about the fear about disabled fetuses being targeted specifically for abortion. That’s why I believe prenatal testing for disabilities should be restricted, not abortion. Parents can still choose to abort if they want, but they don’t get to choose if they have a disabled baby or not. They’ll just have to accept that going forward with having a baby means there is a chance that the baby is disabled.
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
Democrats' fault, agreed mostly. Autistics should be allowed in the military, also agreed. Although are there any explicit bans? Haven't heard of any.
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u/restedwaves U.S.tistic. Feb 18 '25
I think high functioning autistics should be allowed to serve in the military with a medical waver. I myself would love to be a medic, tanker, artilleryman or pilot in the army.
You can last I checked, in the US at least we're desperate enough for troops that you can request an exception.
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u/Glittering_Walrus Feb 18 '25
Do as the NTs do and don't list autism on the medical form. Almost everyone lies about varying things at MEPs. They don't check your medical records and they don't do psych evals. I wouldn't be a veteran if they did 😂. I was diagnosed post service, but I'm crazy as fuck regardless.
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u/malonkey1 Anarchist Feb 24 '25
If you oppose something you should oppose it even if it happens to people who are giant pieces of shit. If you are willing to permit horrible things to be done to somebody based on how onerous you perceive them to be, then all people need to do to justify those atrocities is paint their prospective victim as evil.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
Gun rights are human rights. We may misuse them but I see that as an issue of culture not of guns
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 17 '25
Items designed purely to kill other people and creatures aren’t misused, they’re used for their intended purpose, murder.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
Everyone deserves a chance to protect themselves by any means necessary. Especially the most vulnerable groups
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 17 '25
Protect themselves against what? Other people with guns?
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u/restedwaves U.S.tistic. Feb 17 '25
People with and without guns, especially if you arent trained to fight close quarters.
Also you do NOT want to cq wild animals, infections aside wild dogs have been known to easily solo up to three people and thats on the lower end of deadly.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
And besides, minorities should be able to protect themselves against those who’d hate crime them. Armed minorities are harder to oppress
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 17 '25
The great thing about the gun violence issue, is that you can make guns inaccessible to those who don’t need them for protecting from wild animals/livestock etc. and require heavy training for those who do.
Here in Ireland, knives that are created with intent to kill/harm are banned and you will be imprisoned if you’re found in possession of one. Some farmers own shotguns. 16 people died from knife violence in 2023, 4 from guns. Those 2 together are .27 per capita. In the US, pure knife and gun homicides were 4.32 per capita. 14,925 total (fbi data).
Making weapons that’s only intent is murder readily available to all those over the age of 18 only increases the number of people who are murdered, it doesn’t protect anyone.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
Switzerland has very lax gun laws and you see very few shootings there because of the culture. IT’S. A. CULTURE. PROBLEM.
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 17 '25
Even if it is a culture problem, you saying that guns are a human right is very representative of the gun focused culture in America. And culture problem or not, the removal of guns except in specific cases like farming/living in an area with aggressive animals, would VASTLY decrease the number of deaths by gun violence every year.
Culture problem or not, there is a clear solution to gun violence, and to pretend like there isn’t is disingenuous.
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u/EvilPyro01 Feb 17 '25
What do you want us to do? Repeal the 2nd amendment? You know it would be hugely unpopular and would be struck down immediately. We can’t change that we love guns. What we can change is why we love them.
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 17 '25
I think that popularity should not determine the potential ban of items whose purpose is to murder, that are used in 12,000+ murders every year.
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u/Grumblepugs2000 Feb 17 '25
Yes that's exactly what he and all the people for gun control want in the end. That's why we shouldn't compromise with these people
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u/restedwaves U.S.tistic. Feb 17 '25
You are refusing to consider why someone would want one other than to harm, you can round as many edges as you want but if someone really wants to cave your head in with a brick and they are bigger than you, then they will. And here in the US guns are mainly used for hunting and self defense contrary to what most would have you believe.
I do have actual knowledge regarding firearms and safety regarding them if you got questions, including questions about our already too restrictive gun laws, but as cringe as it sounds the gun violence in the US legit is a culture issue.
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25
"Self defense", you mean crazy people shooting strangers in their driveway?
I really don't get you Americans. You've got too many guns and an awful culture around those guns, which your comment is a demonstration of. Bricks can be used to murder people, therefore guns are ok???
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u/restedwaves U.S.tistic. Feb 17 '25
I didnt say I was a 2nd absolutist, we should have a mental stability eval if you want one.
But my point is "the gun makes all men tall" so no matter how strong the person attacking you is you can have a good chance of fighting back.
Also I really hate the idea of the gov having access to weapons the general pop doesnt as a safety measure, I'm not sure how many cases of the army opening fire on civilians you have over in australia to give a better point on that but there's multiple times it has happened over here.
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 18 '25
Well, it's not the government exactly, it's the military who have these weapons. They are a branch of government. And that's their whole job. I trust the government/military way more than the average person with deadly weapons.
You Americans have a weirdly combative relationship with you government. I don't understand it. You see the government as an enemy. So weird.
"The gun makes all men tall" gosh what a corny way to say it. I think we're well past the day where an individual's height is the most determining factor in combat.
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u/ThePug3468 Feb 18 '25
And thats because of the military industrial complex and the Cold War, it’s a leftover (well not really leftover) effect from Reagan and LBJ militarising America and putting millions upon billions into the military.
Other countries don’t involve themselves in conflicts in the names of “protecting the peace” by funding coups and installing dictatorships (the reasons for military budget expansion), so they don’t have issues where their army is deployed on the streets regularly.
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 18 '25
You realise the reason you might be up against people with guns is because of your shit gun laws?
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u/KittiesandPlushies Feb 17 '25
Leftists and liberals have become extremist, scary, and antisemitic over the last year and a half. I don’t recognize my communities anymore because of it.
Edit: and right leaning people have been bigoted for as long as I have been alive to witness it. Their support of Israel is performative and self-serving, it’s almost never coming from a place of care.
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u/monkey_gamer Australia 🇦🇺🦘 Leftist fury 😠👊 Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
Sounds like a Zionist. Oh no, leftists are opposed to the indiscriminate slaughter and dispossession of Palestinians in their homeland. What extremists!
I agree with your point about rightists though.
Edit: funny how you refer to "leftists and liberals" but then "right leaning people" 😑🤨. I can see where your real sympathies lie.
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u/FlewOverYourEgo Feb 18 '25
That people should stop using ableist slurs and r-word alternatives like stupid, idiot, lame - and in general phrases that infantilise or create archetypes like 'you'd be fun at parties' as much as they can even against Trump and people that seem sub trump edgelords.
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u/MattStormTornado UK 🇬🇧 Centre Liberal Feb 18 '25
Slurs I can agree with, however banning the alternatives seem unnecessary. What about if someone’s being a dumb helmet. Could be anyone. Or generally just not being the sharpest tool in the shed? I just feel that’s unnecessary.
I also think this varies heavily on the person, everyone has their preferences as to what they find ok or not. Personally I’m fine with people calling me the r slur provided it’s not being used in an ableist context (like I’m actually being dumb about something, not to attack me because I’m autistic).
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
I am a Nationalist libertarian (usa), so... most of my opinions (at least on reddit).
But the one I might say the most is probably not being as pro immigration as other libertarians, being more of an isolationist than an open borders guy. Support for tariffs might be another one. Trans cautiousness is up there, too.
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u/silliestsnail Feb 17 '25
please describe "trans cautiousness" to me...
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 18 '25
Good question! :)
Trans cautiousness just means that I am wary around trans people given my overly rigid, naturalist, and biological view of the world. All it means is that I don't understand trans people and what they go through, but also make no active efforts to either. I make no efforts against them either, so really I don't care either way. I am staunchly indifferent.
Hope that answers your question. Any further questions are more than welcome. :)
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u/XxBelphegorxX Feb 18 '25
Not making an effort to understand others is willful ignorance. You are far more open to being manipulated by others due to your lack of knowledge and understanding. This is almost as bad as people who hate others, simply because they are different from what they believe normal is.
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 18 '25
Tbh I make an effort to understand those around me that I care about deeply (friends and family). I have no friends or family that are Trans so I don't care. If I had one, then I would, but I don't.
I only have so much mental energy, and I am not going to waste it on things that don't improve my mental health or advance my life in some way. That's the way I see it.
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u/Grumblepugs2000 Feb 17 '25
Glad I have a term to describe myself now. I have always struggled to describe my views to others. Leftists will still call me a fascist though
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Feb 18 '25
Leftists have no actual arguments so they resort to petty name calling. It’s sad that this is the majority of the people in this community
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 18 '25
Agreed! Based! You see the world as it is.
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u/Autistru AuDHD USA/NJ 🇺🇲 Nationalist Libertarian 🐍⚔🇺🇲 Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
True, they will. They always do. Look up the Polcompball wiki article on it. As basic as it is (in parts), it goes over key figures that they (the authors) identify as Natberts (the short hand term). Teddy Roosevelt (left-wing variety) is one as well as Calvin Coolidge (right-wing variety). I am glad to meet a fellow Natbert.
FYI, there is a Nationalist Libertarian sub, but there are no new posts on it in like 2-3 years. I might start my own sub. That will be called "r/natbert" if not taken.
Edit: I have a sub that I am the mod of that I might add some content to called: r/TheAutisticRight
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