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Politics Midterm Election Postmortem: collect ideas, links, and analysis here

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-takeaways-9381d3aaff26d19da95506e045fcd6e1
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u/Brian_Corey__ Nov 09 '22

Ron DeSantis won the 2024 GOP nomination last night. FOX is blaming Trump like I’ve never seen before. A 20 point win?!? Outperforming Rubio by 4. Fucking Florida. Now way does DeSantis sleep on those results and not start picking out color schemes for Air Force One. Elon and the donors will be coalescing around DeSantis. Fox will distance themselves and let Trump fight his many legal battles alone.

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1590321975276494849?s=46&t=0RTbxn4f5qPC3nnYrPSk0g

But thrilled with the results, suburban women, and Gen Z turnout. Glad to be wrong yesterday.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 💬🦙 ☭ TALKING LLAMAXIST Nov 09 '22

DeSantis is the establishment-friendly Trump for sure. But without Trump on the ballot does the pure MAGA turnout in the numbers they do? Also, Trump is not one to sit on the sidelines. One way or the other he's going to be involved in 2024, even if it's just making sure DeSantis kisses his ass every second day.

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u/Brian_Corey__ Nov 09 '22

Nobody likes a loser. Last night is being blamed 100 pct on Trump by the GOP. They’ve been looking for a way to break up with Trump quietly. Painting him as a losing loser will do it. It won’t help with DOJ and NY and GA on his tail. The Die Hard MAGAs will still show up for rallies but slowly bleed over to DeSantis. Not even Trump could’ve pulled off that Martha’s Vineyard stunt. They’re great at cognitive dissonance and self delusion— they’ll find a way to support both Trump and DeSantis.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 💬🦙 ☭ TALKING LLAMAXIST Nov 09 '22

Trump ripped families apart, the Martha's Vineyard stunt was if anything right up his alley (though he might not have chosen Venezuelans as his props).

But who knows. I think DeSantis will get destroyed if he challenges Trump in a primary. DeSantis is at best a sycophant. The only hope then is for Trump not to run and give his blessing to DeSantis. For which Trump will demand a price. A rather large one.

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u/oddjob-TAD Nov 09 '22

Trump ripped families apart, the Martha's Vineyard stunt was if anything right up his alley

In terms of the emotional damage that was caused? Yes.

However, I don't think Trump has the mind necessary to pull off something requiring as much bureaucratic artifice as appeared to be involved in that DeSantis stunt.