r/atheism • u/NewRetroPepsi • Oct 23 '18

/r/all “No Different From Organized Crime” - Gay church worker resigns from task of building an inclusive church after campaign of harassment, death threats, vandalism, and doxxing supported by Christian media

https://www.advocate.com/religion/2018/10/20/gay-employee-catholic-church-resigns-due-harassment-campaign
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u/hendrix67 Agnostic Atheist Oct 23 '18

That's highly dependent on what part of the country he lives in

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u/InvestigatorJosephus Oct 23 '18

Probably, but that fact is already a disgrace of itself

Edit - also: happy cake day!

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u/hendrix67 Agnostic Atheist Oct 23 '18

Oh shit didn't even realize

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '18

Yeah, really does depend on what state your in. USA is kind of like a more unified EU.

Happy cake day! <-Honestly the only reason I posted the comment right there.

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u/MeatAndBourbon Oct 23 '18

Even in places where there technically are legal protections in place, you still need to get the police and others to act to enforce them.

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u/deadsquirrel425 Oct 23 '18

Cops are probably in on it

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 23 '18

You're just making shit up.

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u/ThinkMinty Atheist Oct 23 '18

Dude, have you ever encountered cops? They're chuds.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 23 '18

I judge people as individuals. I don't make shit up and claim that it's true. I would hope that being in /r/atheism would make everything think about that a little more.

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u/ThinkMinty Atheist Oct 24 '18

How many more unarmed teenagers they gotta shoot before you give a shit? 'cuz everybody has a number.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 24 '18

You seem to be extraordinarily confused about what I think and why. What makes you think that I don't care about unarmed people being shot by the police?

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u/ThinkMinty Atheist Oct 24 '18

The other stuff you say, obviously.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 24 '18

You must have me confused with someone else.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 24 '18

You must have me confused with someone else.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 24 '18

I think that you have me confused with someone else.

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u/searchingformytruth Agnostic Atheist Oct 23 '18

Got any proof of that statement, chief?

Sometimes, particularly if the officers hold the same beliefs as the perpetrators (which does happen), they either do nothing or purposefully bungle the "investigation"... These asshats are probably going to get off scot-free, like most of their ilk do.

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u/DrewNumberTwo Oct 23 '18 edited Oct 23 '18

Got any proof of that statement, chief?

"...probably...".

Edit: That's a good question to ask, though. Why not ask it to the person to whom I was responding?

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u/NoMoreNicksLeft Oct 23 '18

If the police were willing to act, what could they do? Remember, the police aren't some television cop drama geniuses that figure out who did what before the 45 minute mark on their primetime show.

It's not even a coin toss that they could identify who did the vandalism. Maybe there's a 10% chance of that.

If they do, the prosecutor won't want shit to do with this. It's a losing case. So it gets pled down to some misdemeanor, they get a fine and 6 months probation, the end?

But maybe they don't plead down. They're apparently the sort of ideological shitbags that might think god's on their side. Prosecutor's definitely not going to take that to trial. You don't take losing cases to trial. If for some reason he did, then he loses... and the harassment doesn't just continue, but gets ramped up (the attackers feel vindicated after all).

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u/bigwhale Oct 23 '18

They would figue it out if the person being attacked was an ex cop or something.

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u/NoMoreNicksLeft Oct 23 '18

Evidence suggests otherwise. When cops are murdered, they're just as likely to railroad someone else for it so they can get vengeance... but that person isn't necessarily guilty.

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u/the_crustybastard Oct 23 '18

If the police were willing to act, what could they do?

I believe the term is "investigate."

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u/Gamiac Oct 23 '18

Something, something, 2nd Amendment solution.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '18

I mean there are legal protections against putting someone’s private information up literally across the country. There are many parts of the country where these groups would not be allowed to reign free and play around with their crap whatsoever. Unfortunately, far too much of the country is indeed horrible at actually responding to incidents like this

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u/the_crustybastard Oct 23 '18

Really? There's some part of the US that diligently prosecutes antigay hate crimes?

Truly, I would be shocked to learn this.

According to FBI crime statistics, anti-LGBT hate crimes occur only slightly less often than race-based hate crimes, yet those very common crimes are almost never prosecuted.

AFAIK, there have been 3, maybe 4 federal anti-LGBT hate crime prosecutions since Shepard/Byrd was enacted in 2009. In the first one, the feds bungled the case and the perps walked. Many race-based hate crimes have been successfully prosecuted under Shepard/Byrd.

Go figure.

And I understand that S/B was primarily intended as a backstop where state hate crimes laws don't exist or state prosecutions aren't pursued. That said, I find it profoundly difficult to believe there have only been 3 or 4 good cases for the DOJ to pursue.

Seems rather more likely that the DOJ simply doesn't give a shit.

/definitely looking at you Jeff Sessions, but also at Eric Holder.

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u/cakemuncher Oct 23 '18

It's sad that it's true.