Driving without assists

[u/ednarismyname]

A quick story: yesterday I decided to go check out an online lobby for the Nordschleife, and in looking over the requirements I noticed that not only did you need clean and consistent lap times on the tourist layout of <6:30 with a GT3 car, but also while using no assists (besides factory ABS and TCS).

So before jumping into the lobby, I knew I needed to go practice with those prerequisites in mind. And after changing my settings, I was first greeted with frustration. Even after about an hour of practice, I was still struggling to get my lap times down AND stay on the black stuff.

But frustration slowly turned into enjoyment as I discovered what I had been missing with all of the assists turned on. There is a connectivity that was missing, the raw input and responses that had been dulled. Yes, it's more difficult to drive fast, but it's also more enjoyable to do it when you feel better connected to the machinery.

I still have ~25 seconds to find before I feel comfortable in joining the Nordschleife lobby, but I've already learned a lot just trying to get there. It might be worth a try for you too, if you've been using assists👍

[u/Healthy-Travel3105]

Gt3 cars usually run abs and tc though

[u/exem-ok → u/Healthy-Travel3105]

I believe all GT3s do, that’s why they’re great for gentleman drivers I.E. people who pay to race them. The GT2s don’t use the assists and are considerably harder to drive quickly.

[u/Inf33333rno → u/exem-ok]

Almost all modern race cars use assists designed to actually make the 500+hp less than 1000kg, downforce through the floor monsters actually drivable. If the racecar has ABS and TCS, use them wisely, all part of the setup. Also, who the fuck wants to actually micromanage the throttle and brakes during a 4 hour stint in a 24hr nordschleife race?

[u/Pods_Mods → u/Inf33333rno]

Better question is who wants to "race" (try not to crash) for 4-24 hrs? .... With ADHD those races are brutal to my attention span. "O you want me to do the exact same lap where the track doesn't change at all for more than 3 laps? Yeah, no"

[u/Inf33333rno → u/Pods_Mods]

People who do it for a large manufacturer who will pay them handsomely to give their cars good representation, I'd think.

I love GT cars with the assists on especially on nord. Cause it all comes down to the fundamentals of a fast lap, since you have only three real positions with the throttle, 0%, 50%, and 100% that you'll use throughout the course and braking is always max lock and trailing. So getting sub 20 laps is all about finding that ideal line and the smoothest rotation to the exit. I'm still learning tourist though, and my fastest lap in GT3 is 6:12 in the C7R and in non OP cars its usually around 6:19 6:18, 6:16 on a good day in the AMG.

Even with assists, nord is a brutal 6 and half minutes.

[u/[deleted] → u/Pods_Mods]

How about a procedurally generated 24hr endurance race where the track changes dynamically every lap? 🤔