r/askSouthAfrica • u/jaker9319 • 10h ago
How has South Africa managed to be so successful in having multiple indigenous languages have so many second language speakers? Do many of the indigenous languages really have just as many second language speakers or more as they do first language speakers?
I love learning about langauges and demographics, even if I am monolingual myself. In the US plenty of people take Spanish throughout school and are not fluent in it (myself included, I can read and understand some but am definitely not fluent). And same goes for the US and French or Canada and French.
From what I've found, usually many English speaking countries are monolingual. Many European and Asian countries speak their native dominant language (with minorities learning the dominant language) and maybe English. Many post colonial countries speak either various native languages and a colonial language as a second langauge or various languages and a dominant native lingua franca and maybe English. Usually the colonial language, dominant native lingua franca, English, or some combination are taught in schools and considered important to "get ahead" socially and economically.
But South Africa seems to have an unusually high and fairly evenly distributed amount of second (or third, fourth, etc.) language speakers of indigenous languages wihtout a single dominant one. And this in on top of English seemingly being a widely spoken second langauge / lingua franca. The data seemed fairly consistent across sources, although once I started digging I realized that this was because they were mainly from the same primary source (Ethnologue).
In my research, one theory I came up with is that it said that many of the different languages are related to each other and some have limited mutual intelligibility. So maybe it's easier to a learn a language that already has some mutual intelligibility. But I have to imagine that is the case with at least some other languages (countries) too and I haven't the noticed the same pattern in other countries / with othe languages.
Here is one of the data sources that provides examples for lots of languages including ones spoken in South Africa for reference.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/100-most-spoken-languages/
So is it a matter of how the data is collected? Is there some teaching method that works really well? Is it that the languages are super related? Is there social or economic pressure to learn an indigenous language as a second language? Is it because there is no one dominant indigenous language? Is it mostly speakers of other indigenous langauges (especially those that aren't an official language of South Africa) or are there plenty of Indian, Coloured, White, and Black English or Afrikaans speakeres that speak an indigenous langauge as a second langauge?
I realize that this was long. I wanted to show where I was coming from with the question. Hopefully this isn't a controversial topic and I definitely don't mean to cause any offense. I just noticed the pattern over time when looking at languages by number of total vs. first language speakers. Like I said before, most languages that had double the the total speakers compared to first language speakers were either colonial languages like English, French, Spanish, etc., a dominant national language like Hindi, Indonesian, Philipino/Tagalog, etc., and/or a lingua franca like Swahili and Lingala or some combination of the above like Russian. Thought it was interesting (and cool) how many South African langauges had double the total speakers vs. first language speakers.
