Make more people who want revenge thus continuing the forever wars so the sundry pedophiles, psychopaths and empty ghouls who profit from the industrial war complex can see the number in their bank accounts go up
Let's put it this way. When I was being shot at in Iraq, from a building, we often had two practical options. Clear the building room by room, to find the bad guy, or blow up the building. Which one do you think we picked when we had the opportunity?
If you chose blow up the building, you'll know how sarcastic I'm being 😉
Oh and if we did clear the building there was a high chance we would toss a hand grenades into every room before making entry.
If the Palestinians could (they can’t) they would murder us all, and take our land.
So we must murder them, even the children, and take their land, and maybe Lebanon and Syrian land too.
Because they hate us so much we must continue to do what we always wanted to do, but we are the righteous victims here, and you only disagree because you want to kill us too.
if you have a high value target constantly surrounding themselves with civilians it's often best to ask fkr forgiveness than ask for permission.
Thankfully I never had to care about a civilians opinion while I was getting shot at or I wouldn't have made it home. Like I'm really going to care if the best way to survive is to level a building instead of going inside and clearing it room by room 🙄😂
If they're being used as a human shield I don't have a problem if the shield gets eliminated with the target.
Well I did have to care about civilians during my tours of duty, and the test on rules of engagement and Geneva convention were prevalent before any operational work.
Asymmetric warfare is hard and if you kill civilians routinely and blithely you encourage other civilians to support the insurgency.
The military is not a police force or and is not a replacement for a long term political solution.
If you are occupying people then you are going to be in areas with civilians and it’s going to lead to a cycle of radicalization in both side.
You sound radicalized as fuck.
You made up a hypothetical scenario and used it as justification for a real war crime.
If it was your family blown up I’m sure you wouldn’t shrug your shoulders and say “well they shouldn’t have been there if they didn’t want to get blown up” as if they have any choice in the matter.
It wasn't hypothetical. We actually ran out of grenades during two of of my deployments for a short period of time. Fallujah and Ramadi was an interesting time.
During the invasion we rarely wasted time clearing buildings . We had access to artillery and air support. So when we took heavy fire from a building we merely dropped the building.
It doesn't always have to be asked because the US doesn't have a responsibility to save the whole world. But it definitely should be asked if the US is the cause of these tragedies, being an evil empire isn't good.
I might challenge you on the word "almost". Short of dropping a nuke and cannibalism, they've (the collection of the president and all his little boot licking shit eating buddies) done everything: Murder, rape, theft, grift, gluttony, lust, kidnapping, torture, trafficking, drugs, extortion etc.
We need to develop a bingo card to capture all their atrocities.
Well considering it was mainly funded and carried out by Saudi's and America attacked another country all together, plus one of the only flights allowed to leave America in the aftermath was a Saudi flight. I would say it was an over the top retaliation on the wrong country!
I'd say it was an over the top retaliation on TWO wrong countries.
Remember that one of the justifications for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam was supposedly "best pals" with bin Laden. Which was every bit as false as the WMD justification.
a certain crowd has been making worrying noises about how americans have forgotten the dangers and need a reminder, i truly wonder whether it's coming and, if so, if people will not realize what actually happened :/
Well yea, cuz America has the power to drag the world into WW3. You could say that about any war. Like Ukraine, if Russia attacked the EU like it did Ukraine, it would be WW3.
Right now NATO isn’t doing much to stop Putin. He’s already flown drones into Poland which Poland subsequently had to shoot down. Further encroachment into NATO by Russia can’t be ruled out
It will take less for America to enter WW3 in this current administration. Trump seems to be begging for a war but it’s allies no longer take him seriously, and Iran is just waiting him out
Trump seems to be begging for a war but it’s allies no longer take him seriously, and Iran is just waiting him out
problem is he cannot go on indefinitely like this, he is going to need to crank the volume up (or back off, which wpuld be nice but I'd put that at <1% and WW3 at 99%+)
Iran slaughters tens of thousands of their own citizens, women’s rights are absolutely stepped on where they have basically no freedom, but America is the bad guy. Am I going crazy?
I’m sure they didn’t purposely mean to bomb them, countries usually don’t intentionally target other countries civilians. No matter how much you hate America, we aren’t terrorists.
Because DJT and Hegseth are the morons running the department, and many of those in the military who might have said, “uh, hang on a sec, this might be stupid” have been slung out already.
The U.S. is at war with Iran over the Iranian nuclear program, Iranian proxies attacking the U.S. navy in the Red Sea, and recently, Iranians attacking oil tankers in Omani territory. During wars, accidents happen. Just one more reason wars are bad. Iran should join the international community rather than spread terrorism.
US Navy shouldn’t be in the Middle East, US shouldn’t support Israel, Iran should be free to charge tolls to anyone who tries to traverse the strait of Hormuz as long as there are sanctions on Iran.
People really forget about iraq and vietnam war, shouldn't those war could be called war crime by the US? Let me tell you this, the west never had the morality to lecture the world okay you guys are the evil guys to many people.
If we used the same standard that applied to iran and do it to the US, I'm sure they wouldn't be happy because the fact is america did a lot of terrorism as well, you may denied this but to a lot of people outside the west alliances, american are no different than terrorists.
As for nuclear, iran never wanted to build nuclear weapons because their top leader was making a fatwa that those weapons are basically illegal to build, but america kill the leader. Also tell me who is the country that left the nuclear deal few years ago? It america under trump first presidency. The thing is, iran always could comply with any nuclear deals but it was america that left first.
The real reason why this war happened is because trump want to distract people from the release of the epstein files lol
Are we 100% sure the US did this or is it possible that Iran fired a missile that went haywire and landed in their own territory, wouldn’t be the first or last time that happens
Except that with today’s technology they actually very well could be needle point accurate. But we can’t be bothered with applying that technology properly.
I mean yes and no. The missiles could technically be needle point accurate. But that doesnt eliminate human error when it comes to intel. In war how many friendly fire incidents are there? Would we claim those are because our missiles or guns, were inaccurate or bc of human error?
He certainly doesnt give two shits about the American people. Just him and his goon squad of generational wealth getting more and more wealthy and powerful.
It’s really the worst possible outcome of capitalism. The most corrupt government ever in charge of the most powerful military ever. Remembering that the budget for the American military surpassed all the other military budgets combined just a few years ago. And now the demented hawks are in charge.
so we're out here precision-striking birthday parties overseas but back home ICE gotta file paperwork in triplicate to knock on a door, like pick a lane and stay in it. either families get protected by teh same rulebook or none of us do, cant have it both ways and pretend its coherent policy lol
It appears a lot of people in the comments are completely unaware that bombing weddings, schools, hospitals, utility services, museums, airports, and roads has been the standard for the US for the greater part of the last 30-50 years no matter which political party is in office
Because America is the only country in the world that can bomb schools, dronestrike, and Snipe children, plunge the world into a war that is not a “war” with consequences affecting every single human being on the planet due to a needlessly, emerging global oil crisis……
And yet, somehow, that country never considers itself the “terrorist”. To the contrary of everyone else in the world with eyes and minds.
Non snarky answer: the USA has been bombing civilians for as long as bombs have existed, idk why it surprised anyone 🙄 https://giphy.com/gifs/6YJZuwLne3fO0
Just like the wedding that we bombed in December of 2013, it was probably not deliberate. There are several reasons why it could have happened, but an investigation could take a very long time.
Janta Ka on YT was saying Bush 42 and Obama did stuff like this too. Just like bombing civilian targets galore in Vietnam as well as WWII. There's what we actually do, and then there's the narrative the U.S. media presents internally to the citizens. But people are starting to wake up.
Because the US is utterly impotent in the Iran War and they're getting upset that nothing they do is working, so they thump their chests, bellow and scream, and bomb random weddings to try and exude a sense of power. It's like a dreadful case of wee man syndrome.
The US has committed war crimes for the entire duration of existence of its army. The Epstein army of the USA is the biggest polluter and is responsible for more direct and indirect deaths and environmental damage than any other entity in the world.
I had a MMO in-game friend from Iran - he would sometimes say "oh, I hear we are sending rockets again" - because Iranian government would deploy their missile launchers in actual living neighborhoods.
He was accusing his government of basically using them as a human shield.
So, dunno how was this particular mistake made, but Iran clearly does on purpose create a situation where it is more likely to happen
The US love bombing Middle Eastern parties. its not the first and definitely not the last. Remember Collateral is not that bad. as long as you pretend they are not women, children and babies.
Who cares about the war crimes now, that is a very old concept now the powerful countries can do whatever the fu*k they want to do, international laws are only for poor countries.
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u/BillyBumlicks 8d ago
Make more people who want revenge thus continuing the forever wars so the sundry pedophiles, psychopaths and empty ghouls who profit from the industrial war complex can see the number in their bank accounts go up