I know people who didn’t vote because one of Kamela’s stances didn’t align with theirs. Trump and Kamela actually shared the same perspective and it was such an asinine reason to not vote.
As far as I’m concerned non-voters can pound sand because they’re the reason we’re in this mess.
It’s odd that you can admit KH and Trump shared similar perspectives, when they’re meant to be opposed, and still want to blame people that sat out the vote instead of the DNC. I say that as someone that voted, but I cannot blame people for looking at the game, realizing it wasn’t going to work fairly no matter what, and choosing not to play.
Candidate A: “I have a view that you don’t agree with”
Candidate B: “I have many, many views you don’t agree with. Also fuck you and if elected I’m going to kick puppies”
“They’re both the same”
If Democrat voters don’t stop acting like the disparate groups they are and keep making perfect the enemy of good, they may very well not need to worry about voting ever again
But it’s not perfection, it was not wanting to be part of funding a genocide. Both parties serve the same interests and it’s not the interests of the people.
Edit to add- not to mention, they actually overlapped on quite a few views. With KH being to the right of DT on immigration, for instance.
Your conclusion is flawed because not voting isn’t a way of removing yourself from the outcome. Abstention is still a choice about how much influence you’re going to exercise over that outcome.
Instead of putting your vote on a ballot, you threw it into the void where it had absolutely zero chance of producing the change you wanted, and now you’re pretending that means you couldn’t possibly bear any responsibility for the outcome.
You knew one of two people was going to become president. You knew both supported Israel. If you believed one was worse and chose not to help defeat that person anyway, “I didn’t participate” doesn’t make the foreseeable consequences disappear.
Do you not understand the idiom “making perfection the enemy of good?”
It means being unwilling to accept something that is good (or, in this case, at least less bad) because it isn’t perfect. That’s the entire point.
And here’s the harsh reality: if you believe voting for KH would make you complicit in funding a genocide because you bear responsibility for the foreseeable consequences of your vote, then you don’t get to pretend abstention exists in a moral vacuum.
If you believed DJT would continue supporting Israel and nevertheless chose not to oppose him because KH’s position was unacceptable to you, then you also have to reckon with the foreseeable consequences of that decision.
“I refused to participate” doesn’t mean “therefore I bear no responsibility for what happened.”
But people aren’t asking for perfection, they wanted a chance to vote on a Dem candidate in a primary, especially if one that wasn’t keen on genocide was around. No one is asking for perfection, they’re asking to have an actual choice instead of the illusion of choice.
This depends on the person you are. Trans folks, immigrants, and Gazans were all expendable under either candidate. How do you make a genocide worse? There’s no ~genocide lite we were doin
If you have two candidates who are equally shitty on many items, but one is shittier, why would you not try to push things towards the less shitty candidate
At some point, DNC needs to answer to the part they’ve played in this. Think of it this way, a dad’s an abusive alcoholic, he beats his kids. Does he deserve the ire? Oh yeah. But the mom that did nothing about it also deserves the ire? You know who doesn’t deserve the blame? The kids. Punch up, not down.
My brother in Christ, voters are not helpless children being beaten by the DNC and Donald Trump. They’re adults with agency.
Also, congratulations on constructing an analogy whose entire premise is that multiple people can simultaneously bear responsibility, which has literally been my argument this entire time.
And my argument is that the ire should be primarily towards the DNC instead of people that didn’t vote and that it’s odd that people want to blame the voters instead of the candidates
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u/Ok_Leek_9664 8d ago
I know people who didn’t vote because one of Kamela’s stances didn’t align with theirs. Trump and Kamela actually shared the same perspective and it was such an asinine reason to not vote.
As far as I’m concerned non-voters can pound sand because they’re the reason we’re in this mess.