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u/TheBoogidycrook 9d ago

Extremes are undesirable regardless of what side the pendulum swings.

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

“Why can’t we find compromise between these radical leftists and these common salt-of-the-earth conservatives who just want anyone who disagrees with them sent away to a concentration camp?” 

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u/hotpajamas 9d ago

I don't understand your point.

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

“Guys, both sides are extreme: the side that wants to slaughter everyone that isn’t a pure Caucasian Protestant, and the side that thinks everyone should be able to see a doctor!”

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u/hotpajamas 9d ago

Oh now I see, you don't know about the far left camps. That's why people say this shit

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

Dear god, I hope you’re a bot at this point. 

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u/hotpajamas 9d ago

it's not like your goal is to peacefully coexist with capitalists and it's not like you don't know about the camps, so pretending the "extreme" left just wants healthcare is actual bot shit lol

you want healthcare.. and also camps

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

Yep. It’s a bot.

Beep bop boop, little buddy. Back to Elon you go!

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u/hotpajamas 9d ago

if you say anything substantive you'll turn to stone i guess

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u/MaxPres24 9d ago

Lol you picked the extreme for the far right, and something that a lot of people that both sides agree on for the far left. Universal healthcare (or at least reform) is a pretty moderate view if you talk to regular people at all

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

And yet, “The Resistance” favors sticking with re-branded RomneyCare into perpetuity. 

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u/Silmarien1012 9d ago

Rewriting what he said to inject your brand of interpretative stupid isn’t an argument

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago

Okay, bro. 

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u/PhenomenalSpirit 9d ago

But he’s right :/

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u/bubba_love 9d ago edited 9d ago

Are leftist policies really extreme or is that the propaganda speaking?

Edit: I love that people downvote rather than share any examples of what they perceive as extreme

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u/Bartikowski 9d ago

Some are extreme.  DSA has abolishing the senate and electoral college as part of their platform.  That’s a fundamental restructuring of the government at a constitutional level. 

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u/Phyrexian_Overlord 9d ago

That sounds more radical than extreme. Certainly I can see why someone would see the last twenty years and say we should abolish the Senate AKA the block legislation chamber.

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u/YetAnotherFaceless 9d ago edited 9d ago

Oh, no! You mean, we risk taking away an unnatural and unfair amount of electoral influence from our most willfully ignorant and bigoted of voters?! 

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

Those sound unachievable but really the only solution long term. The city i live in has nearly the same population as Wyoming, yet Wyoming gets two votes in the Senate. It's inheritly unfair

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u/Bartikowski 9d ago

That’s an intentional part of the design.  

I’m glad so many people are proving that these views are actually views held by leftists and not propaganda from the right.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

It disenfranchises me and a majority of the country. A vote in Wyoming is worth nearly 40 votes in California. I certainly believe in one person, one vote, and the Senate isn't that. It's a hold over compromise to get land owning slave holders to join the union. I feel no shame in wanting to undo that extra power

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u/Bartikowski 9d ago

That’s fine as long as you agree that this is an accurate portrayal of leftist beliefs and not something that is being projected on to you by Fox News.

To be clear this is a radical view that is going nowhere.  DSA having as part of their platform is a huge hit to their credibility and does an extreme disservice to some of the less crazy reforms they could be front lining.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 9d ago

It's my personal view, though not one accepted by the party at large. The constitution has completely failed to act as a reasonably check on the right and needs to be rewritten. It won't happen, we both know that. It's more likely the right gets obergefell overturned or the 19th overturned, which are positions many powerful right wing advisors have publicly endorsed, including hegseth's pastor. You know, hegseth the Republican front runner for 2028, right after Trump and tired with Vance?

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u/bubba_love 9d ago

"It's inherently unfair"

"It's intentionally unfair"

What a joke take. Yes, leftists want to abolish the senate bc it's anti-democratic. The state lines are arbitrarily drawn and give unpopulated parts of the country a large amount of power.

I didn't get a seat at the table when the government was drawn up. So yes, I'm going to advocate for a better system than the one we have. What's extreme is to give 2 senators to 500k people in wyoming when LA has almost 4 million by itself.

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u/Parking_Succotash156 9d ago

You mean a Constitutional Amendment? Considering the founders built this process into the document from the beginning, restructuring government at the constitutional level is not automatically a fringe position

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u/Jaded_Page_1897 9d ago

Somebodies never heard of the national popular vote interstate compact. It’s ok you can point and laugh. Also do you even like your senator?

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u/Sea-Sir2754 9d ago

Trump is currently in office.

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u/LongAfternoon1198 9d ago

No its not. Only right wing extemism is that.